NEWSPAGE Archive-1

 

This page is dedicated to Genealogy related news events, update news of special Websites, that have been received by email from concerned Genealogists or subscribed email. Listed by date received, newest down to oldest. For Archived news from Dec 23, 2003 & older go to Newspage-Archive .

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nmscnews: VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- further to WHERE and WHEN NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- WHERE and WHEN NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- [CCC] a great ride on the S-18 train NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- Others to thank NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- S-18 receives Royal Assent NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- New column posted! NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- Senator Milne's Press Release NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census - Your cooperation is requested. NEW! July 1
Post 1901 Census -- Sitting of House extended NEW! July 1
Re: [CCC] S18 for Monday NEW! June 17
New Look ScotlandsPeople Site NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census -- S-18 Reported without amendment NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - S-18 amendments?? NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census -- S-18 hearings NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - A thank you NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - Submission to Committee NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - Fw: Committee meetings NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate from Hansard posted NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate makes it to the House NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - Another gold tick awarded! NEW! June 17
BC Cemeteries NEW! June 17
Re - [CCC] S-18 NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!! NEW! June 17
South African Genealogy Records NEW! June 17
Scots Chatter NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - Request for support messages NEW! June 17
Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House sitting days NEW! June 17
Post 1901 Census - House sitting days NEW! June 17
The Year of the Veteran NEW! June 17
Mountain view NEW! June 17
SFU Pipe Band NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business. NEW! June 2
Archives Reading Rooms Closure NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - New column posted........ NEW! June 2
VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions..NEW! June 2
British Great War Medal cards NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 not yet debated NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 reappears on POD NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census. NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Where is Bill S-18? NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 not on agenda NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Info on ICs legal action NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - House adjourned again! NEW! June 2
New publication from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - S-18 on agenda for Friday NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Information Commissioner's legal actions NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - House adjourned without debate of S-18 NEW! June 2
FAMILY LINK NETWORK EXPO OPENS DNA & GENEALOGY ONLINE CONFERENCE NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 on Projected Order of Business  NEW! June 2
Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business
Chinese Canadian Genealogy Workshop
Bill S-18 second reading proposal in House of Commons
A message about Genealogy and reminders about Mods, Concerts, plus__ 
Post 1901 Census - Ontario Today item on Bill S-18 postponed
Penticton Genealogy Club Newsletter (Sogs) - Grapevines
VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions.
Post 1901 Census -- New column posted.
Highland Games again
Post 1901 Census -- Bill S-18 in House of Commons
Family History : New Book on a Renfrewshire Family over the last 200 years
Post 1901 Census - BILL S-18 PASSES AT SENATE THIRD READING!!!!
Post 1901 Census - Senate debate of Bill S-18 concludes - Vote today
Post 1901 Census --  Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled
Post 1901 Census - Letter to Industry Minister
Post 1901 Census - no S-18 debate Thursday
Post 1901 Census - Debate on S-18 resumed
War memories
Post 1901 Census - No debate on S-18
1817-1950 THE SCOTSMAN DIGITAL ARCHIVE available
Post 1901 Census - New Column posted.......
Post 1901 Census - Senator Scoreboard updated
A web site that has information about British Columbia pioneers.
Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate adjourned to 12 April 2005
Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate continues
Post 1901 Census - 3rd reading debate of S-18
Scottish Centre news
Tay Valley Family History Society.
Swedgentour 2005
Post 1901 Census - New column posted.....
on-line version of an index to the "Missing [Irish] Friends" section of the Boston Pilot newspaper.
Some members might be interested in this...Calgary isn't THAT far away.
Upcoming Genealogy Meeting and Lecture
WW1 medal records - under threat of being destroyed?
SFU's Centre for Scottish Studies
Post 1901 Census - debate of S-18 continues
Post 1901 Census - Third Reading of S-18 moved
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 reported back to Senate
Post 1901 Census - new column posted.....
Post 1901 Census - where to send petitions
Burns, bands and ceilidhs
WELCOME to the "Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News,
13 MARCH 2005 ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE
Keppie Lectures
Post 1901 Census - time to send petitions
Post 1901 Census - S-18 Committee hearing posted
S-18 passes committee
Post 1901 Census - S-18 Committee hearings
Post 1901 Census - Committee meeting on Bill S-18
Post 1901 Census - New column posted....
ScotlandsPeople Updates"
CDs of interest
New Melanson ~ Melancon Genealogy?
lecture by Professor Lawrence Keppie
Re: [nsroots] Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 referred to  Committee
VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions
Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 referred to Committee
New First Nations Films Now Available!
Post 1901 Census - Resumption of Parliament
February Online Courses & Onsite Research Academie
Preserving maps, or, not preserving maps
Larkhall Lanarkshire Scotland Monumental Inscriptions
Scottish Islands Join Forces to Promote Genealogical Gatherings
Scottish Centre
Ships Passenger Index Website
BCGS Schedule REMINDER
Mastery of Scottish Arts
Details on the latest information to be added to the new Irish Family History Resource - Pensear.org!
2005 field trips to be offered by the National Institute for Genealogical Studies
Burns & more Burns
Burns, who else..??
CelticFest’s Village Market Application
As of JANUARY 4, 2005 The BCGS has a TELUS High Speed ADSL Internet access
VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions
Most Improved Genealogy Contest
The New Lemire Genealogy is at last arrived !
Post 1901 Census - Parliament recessed
Burns, who else?
Post 1901 Census - last column of 2004 posted
We would like to extend a warm welcome and introduce you to Familyrelatives.org.
Post 1901 Census
Post 1901 Census - New column now online
Post 1901 Census - Notes to Minister Emerson
Post 1901 Census - further to IC legal action
Scottish Songs and...
Post 1901 Census - Legal action by Information Commissioner
Post 1901 Census - Access to website
Post 1901 Census - Hansard extracts of Senate debate online
Post 1901 Census - Apology and Retraction to Senators Lynch-Staunton and Stratton
Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate to continue?
Post 1901 Census - House Pettition totals
Toronto Public Library-- From Bob's Your Uncle, Eh! to the Virtual Reference Library
Post 1901 Census --  URGENT S-18 UPDATE
Post 1901 Census - S-18 Hansard extracts posted.
BCGS webpage-Genealogy News
Post 1901 Census - Letters to MPs and Senators
BCGS cd projects
Re: Scandinavian & Czechoslovakian genealogy groups
Post 1901 Census - Senator Scoreboard revised
Post 1901 Census - New column online
Remembrance Day "A Pittance of Time"
On behalf of Oxfordshire Family History Society
Post 1901 Census - New Bill presented
Post 1901 Census - More gold ticks
nmscnews: VPL News Nov/Dec 2004
Brief Scottish Briefs
Scottish News & Notes
Post 1901 Census - New column posted
Scottish Events
Genealogy Newsletter from the History & Government Division (VPL) - Program Announcement
Post 1901 Census - House Petitions
National Institute: 5th Anniversary
Websites - Vancouver Police Pipe Band
Pensear - Irish Family History Resource
Post 1901 Census - An apology
Discovery of 19th century Doukhobor genealogical documents
Research Academy & Online Courses
Post 1901 Census - Online article
Congratulations
loyalist newsletter
Upcoming genealogy classes at Burnaby Public Library
Post 1901 Census - A new Gold Tick
Post 1901 Census - Message from Information Commisisoner
National Burial Index of England
Post 1901 Census - It is time!
Post 1901 Census -- Letter to MPs
Corresponce re: MP Paul Steckle
Scottish Tidbits
Empress of Ireland/ Artifacts to Vancouver
Post 1901 Census - NS is SOLID GOLD again!
Post 1901 Census - My letter to the editor
Letter to Prime Minister Paul Martin
Post 1901 Census - Exploring the Martin Family Roots
Post 1901 Census - Requests for sample letters
The Centre for Scottish Studies invites you to the Second Annual St. Andrew's and Caledonian Lecture
Post 1901 Census - MP Scoreboard updated
Post 1901 Census - Legal Action and Information Commisisoner
Post 1901 Census - New Industry Minister
Post 1901 Census - New column posted..
Post 1901 Census - New questions
Post 1901 Census - Scoreboard updated
Post 1901 Census -- Beatty v AG Canada et al
Post 1901 Census --Election results
Post 1901 Census -- New Column posted
information about a family history writing contest
Sherry Irvine presentation
In Memorium -- Dr. Robert Westbury
Post 1901 Census - Candidates position re Census
Post 1901 Census -- Election Called
British Columbia Vital Stats -- Bill 43
Post 1901 Census - New column posted...
FW: [archives-bc] Vital Statistics Act amendments
Post 1901 Census - Instructions for Petitions
Post 1901 Census - Ottawa Citizen article
Post 1901 Census -- 2004 Census Test and Lockheed-Martin
Post 1901 Census -- NEW petitions in both official languages
Post 1901 Census -- NEW petitions available
Post 1901 Census -- Addresses for genealogical/historical organizations
Post 1901 Census -- More delays
Re: Post 1901 Census - Parliament in recess -- again!
Post 1901 Census - Parliament in recess -- again!
Post 1901 Census -- Finding your MP
Post 1901 Census -- Parliament in recess
Post 1901 Census -- update re: S-13
Post 1901 Census -- Information Commissioner
Post 1901 Census -- messages deleted
Post 1901 Census - updates to website
Post 1901 Census - Fri, 13 Feb 2004
Post 1901 Census -- motion to bring forward
Post 1901 Census - New column posted
EMPRESS of IRELAND/May 29
Post 1901 Census -- Speech from the Throne
Wouldn't it be great to have the UK 1911 census released!
Post 1901 Census --
Post 1901 Census -- Date for legal action
Post 1901 Census -- my letter
Post 1901 Census -- Letter to PM
Post 1901 Census - Letter to Editor
Post 1901 Census - Toronto Sun Article
NB info
Post 1901 Census -- Parliament and more
EMPRESS of IRELAND January Update
30% Trade Discount

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From: "nm sc news list" <nmsclist@vpl.ca>
Reply-To: nmsclist@vpl.ca
To: nmscnews@vpl.ca
Subject: nmscnews: VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:18:58 -0700

WELCOME to the "Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News," an occasional e-letter from the Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections Divisions of the Vancouver Public Library.

Programs in July:

Book Artist Show & Tell

Book artists, bookbinders, printers, and everyone involved in bookmaking is invited to come and share their work in an informal mini-exhibition and show & tell. Monday, July 18, 7:30 p.m. Held in the Alma VanDusen and Peter Kaye rooms

Discover Your Past: Local History Resources in Special Collections

Using the resources in the Special Collections Department, we will search and find information on the history of the Vancouver Public Library. Libraries in the Vancouver area date back to 1869 and have a rich and colourful history.
The participants in the workshop will be given a good overview of the local research tools (indexes, maps, directories, etc.) available in Special Collections and will be shown slides and film footage of the history of the Vancouver Public Library.

Wednesday, July 20, 7:00 p.m. Held in the Level 7 computer lab and in Special Collections. Registration is required: call 604- 331-3678.

Finding e-zines & e-journals

Join us for a one hour information session with hands-on practice finding online magazines (e-zines) and online magazines (e-journals) on the Internet.

Wednesday, July 27, 2-3 p.m.
Held in the Level 5 training room
Registration is required: call 604- 331-3742.

Cyber Sundays @ Vancouver Public Library Sunday, July 24

Research Your Competition
1 - 2:30pm
Use online resources to find contact, financial, and other information about companies in Canada and beyond.

All About Google
3 - 4:30pm
Lots of people use Google to search the Web. Learn some tips and tricks to get the most out of your Google searching.

Sessions take place in the Level 5 Lab at the Central Library.
To register, call 604-331-3603 or drop by the Level 5 Information Desk at the Central Library.

Basic computer and Internet skills required.

New newsmagazine!

Added to our collection of newsmagazines is India Today. This is our 3rd title from India, along with Frontline and Outlook.
Our magazines are kept in the Newspaper Reading Gallery, along with the current newspapers from around the world.http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/nm/home.html#magazines

Prefer to get your news online? New titles added to PressDisplay are:

Aamulehti, from Finland
Vilaggazdasag, from Hungary
Somogyi Hirlap, from Hungary
Heves Megyei Hirlap, from Hungary
De Volkskrant, from the Netherlands

PressDisplay offers full-image digital versions of current newspapers from over 55 countries and 30 languages. You can access today's newspapers and back issues for up to 45 days

Access by clicking on Electronic Resources from the library home page, at www.vpl.ca and scrolling down through the alphabetical list to find PressDisplay.

More photographs available online!

The Canadian Pacific Railway Photograph Collection consists of about 1,500 images depicting the history of the Canadian Pacific Railway in British Columbia. The photographs portray beautiful steam locomotives; rural and urban railway stations; railway bridges; the workers who laid the tracks  and manned the locomotives; the passengers who travelled on the railway; and a myriad of buildings, hotels, yards and ships. The pictures were captured by various photographers and they range in date from the 1880s to the 1950s. Funding for this digitization project was most generously provided by the Canadian Pacific Railway.

A new website providing background information about the images, the photographers and the history of the CPR in British Columbia can be viewed at: http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/cpr/

Exhibit in Special Collections

Designed to complement the current One Book One Vancouver -  Joy Kogawa's Obasan - the display features photographs, books and artefacts depicting the experiences of Japanese Canadians in Vancouver and British Columbia.

That is all for this issue of Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News.

If you have any ideas or comments for future issues, please send us an email to nmsclist@vpl.ca We welcome all your suggestions.

Vancouver Public Library
350 West Georgia Street
Vancouver BC V6G 1B6
(604)331-3603

To see our all of our current and upcoming programs go to: http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/nm/home.html#Programs
OR
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/home.html#Programs

To e-mail us a question:
http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/qis/emailref/eRefService.html

To suggest a purchase:
http://www.vpl.ca/online/PrintableSuggestedPurchase.html

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- further to WHERE and WHEN
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:02:05 -0700

Greetings All

My thanks to Murray Bryson on the Can-Ont-Simcoe mail list for bringing the following to my attention. It would appear this answers the WHEN regarding online access to the 1911 Census records. A little longer to wait, and longer than was anticipated, but at least the question has been answered.

Enjoy the Census when it is released.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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http://www.collectionscanada.ca/whats-new/013-233-e.html

Notice to Clients

As many of you are aware, Bill S-18 has now received Royal Assent. Under this amended legislation, personal census records for censuses taken between 1911 and 2001 will be made available through Library and Archives Canada 92 years after each census took place.

Library and Archives Canada has received the official transfer of the 1911 census records from Statistics Canada. To facilitate access to these records, a number of standard policies and procedures need to be followed before the product is launched. We are working very hard to release this information to researchers and the general public as quickly as possible. We hope to do this by early August.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Heather Bertram" <aaron@bmts.com>,  "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- WHERE and WHEN
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:20:21 -0700

Greetings All.

I have received a number of messages similar to the one below from Heather, seeking to know WHEN and WHERE the 1911 Census records will be made available online.

As to the WHEN -- it had been our belief that Library and Archives Canada had things all set up and ready to go as soon as Royal Assent had been given to Bill S-18, and Statistics Canada had given over control of the 1911 records to the Librarian and Archivist. We had thought it might be as simple as putting up a link to already scanned and prepared schedules of Census. Perhaps this was wishful thinking rather than fact.

I have written to the Librarian and Archivist seeking to know when the 1911 records would be available online, but I have not yet received a response from him. A message from John Reid of BIFHSGO indicated that he has been to the Archives and was advised that the 'techies' of LAC are working on it. No time line was given.

As to the WHERE -- when placed online I expect the 1911 records will be accessible from the same place the 1901 and 1906 (and other) records are currently available. The database webpage of the online Canadian Genealogy Centre is accessible at

http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/06/06_e.html
The Home page of the Canadian Genealogy Centre is at http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/index_e.html

As with the 1901 and 1911 Censuses, it is unlikely that the 1911 records will be indexed by LAC. I expect that it will not take long, once the 1911 is released, before various genealogical and historical societies start up volunteer indexing projects for their areas. I suspect the same will apply to AutomatedGenealogy as well, although as I write this there has been no announcement of such on their website.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Heather Bertram" <aaron@bmts.com>
To: "'Gordon A. Watts'" <gordon_watts@telus.net>;<ONTARIO-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ONT] Post 1901 Census -- [CCC] a great ride on the S-18 train

Hi Gordon & others.

I am curious about the expected time line as to when the films will be available?
Thanks for your tireless efforts

Heather in Orillia
Check http://www.rootsweb.com/~onvsr/ For Ontario Birth, Marriages & Deaths

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>,  "Norma Brown" <browndm@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- [CCC] a great ride on the S-18 train
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:31:22 -0700

Thank you Norma.

You have summed up things using a little story that we all know, but sometime forget, and added a little humour.

I think that there are a number of lessons to be learned through our experiences of the past seven years, not the least of which is that the 'little people', if there are enough of them that are dedicated and persistent, can make a difference in the overal scheme of things.

Genealogists and historians -- our group of 'little people' – have proven that this is so. We have done so without great expenditures of money (we did not have any). I believe that I can say without contradiction that our campaign has been the first to lobby the Canadian government (or possibly any government) entirely through the use of the Internet. In fact, had it not been for the Internet, it is unlikely that any such campaign could have been mounted and we would not now have the access to Historic Census records that we sought to have returned to us.

We HAVE made a difference -- and because we have, many people for a great length of time will benefit. Our names may not be remembered for any length of time but the results that we have achieved will be.

EACH and EVERY individual who participated in our effort, even if only signing a single petition, or telling a neighbour about the problem, has reason to be proud of what we have accomplished. To each of you I offer our most sincere thanks. Give yourself a pat on the back.

Enjoy the 1911 Census, and those yet to come.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Norma Brown" <browndm@sympatico.ca>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:42 AM
Subject: [CCC] a great ride on the S-18 train


Remember the story about the little train that took the risk and tried to make it up that HUGE hill? It was daunting, but it kept telling itself, "I think I can...I think I can...I think I can..." - and it found out that it could!

We've had a similar experience. The train has huffed and puffed its way through dark tunnels where one did not know if the light at the end of the tunnel was coming or going. A huge vote of thanks to our fearless engineer Gordon and his cheer-leading conductor Muriel , our tour-package designer Sen. Milne who laid out the route that the train would take but never divulged the length of the journey, Lois who made sure that we had an optional plan for reaching our destination, our station announcer Jeff (who kept us abreast of the stations we had passed in the Hallowed Halls of the Senate and the House of Commons), Global Genealogy who generously posted reading material for us to have on the long journey, our MPs who eventually recognized that we were not going to roll over and play dead (providing more tombstone info), our ISPs (without them the e-mail campaign could not have happened), and to all of the people in Canada and around the world who rallied whenever the call went out to throw more coals into the fire. It has been great to have been along for the ride.

Norma

==== CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN Mailing List ====
Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census Issues at
http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/
en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Others to thank
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:25:20 -0700

Greetings All.

For the past 36 hours or so, with a few hours out to sleep and eat, I have spent the better part of my time reading messages of 'congratulations' and 'thank you' regarding finally having achieved a law that will ensure all Historic Census records will be turned over to Library and Archives Canada, for subsequent public access, 92 years after collection.

Without having made an accurate count of the messages that have come in, I would estimate that there have been some 600 to 700 or more of them so far. I suspect that Muriel has received a similar number. Some of them have only two words. i.e. 'Thank you.' while others have been fairly expansive in their praise.

While a handful of us have been the major recipient of those 'thanks' and 'congratulations', there are some others that we should not fail to thank as well. I refer to those who, in the final days and hours, listened to our pleas to finally see Bill S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading without further debate, and some others who obviously helped 'behind the scenes' to bring our campaign to a successful end.

Those that immediately come to mind are the following:

Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, Prime Minister pm@pm.gc.ca
Hon. Tony Valeri - Government House Leader Valeri.T@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Stephen Harper, Leader - Leader of the Opposition OLO@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader Hill.J@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Gilles Duceppe, Leader - Bloc Québécois Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Michel Gauthier - Bloc Québécois House Leader
Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Jack Layton, Leader - New Democratic Party Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Libby Davies - NDP House Leader Davies.L@parl.gc.ca
Hon. David Emerson - Minister of Industry Minister.Industry@ic.gc.ca
Hon. Don Boudria Boudria.D@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Brian Masse Masse.B@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Paul Créte Crete.P@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Mauril Belanger Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca
Hon. James Rajotte Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca
Hon. Brent St. Denis St.Denis.B@parl.gc.ca

There are no doubt others who are equally deserving and whom I have missed in this listing. To them I offer my sincere apologies. Do not forget your own Member of Parliament (does he/she have a Gold Tick?).

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 receives Royal Assent
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:28:32 -0700

Greetings All.

FYI. The last step has been completed. Now to see when the 1911 Census will be available online. I have contacted the Librarian and Archivist of Canada asking about this but have not yet received his response.
Perhaps now that Royal Assent has been granted he will be able to answer my question. I will post as soon as I find out when the records will be online and available.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Milne, Lorna: SEN" <MILNEL@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: Royal Assent

Dear Mr. Watts,

Senator Milne has asked me to let you know that Bill S-18 has received Royal Assent. Would you please post this information to your census list?

Many thanks,

Rosanna Bradley
Assistant

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- New column posted!
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:14:37 -0700

Greetings All

FYI. My latest column on the Post 1901 Census situation has been posted
today.

It is short and sweet, and contains only one article -- VICTORY!!
It can be accessed at
http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce117.htm

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Senator Milne's Press Release
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:11:21 -0700

Greetings All.

FYI

Gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: [CCC] Senator Milne's Press Release

Here is the latest from the boss!

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965


CAMPAIGN FOR RELEASE OF HISTORIC CENSUS RECORDS FINALLY OVER

OTTAWA - June 28, 2005 - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Senator Lorna Milne (L-Brampton) was celebrating this morning as the House of Commons gave unanimous consent to pass Bill S-18 an Act to amend the Statistics Act, to allow for the release of historic census records.

"It is absolutely wonderful. This represents seven years of effort since I first raised a notice of inquiry in the Senate." said Milne.
"The historic census finally has been secured as a public historic record for the use of all Canadians, and I could not be happier".

In 1998 Statistics Canada raised concerns about the legality of the release of the historic census records. This led to 7 years of investigation, analysis, debate, and discussion over how to permit the use of historic census records in Canada.

"I want to thank all of the Ministers who have put so much effort on this file. Ministers Manley, Rock, Robillard, Emerson all put significant work on this file, and I am so pleased that Minister Emerson took swift action, building on the work of previous ministers, to push this thing through." said Milne. "It is certainly a very happy day for all Canadians".

It is expected that the 1911 census that was taken 94 years ago will be released in due time. "It is my understanding that the Archives of Canada is working as quickly as possible to put this online" noted Milne.

Special thanks also go out to Muriel Davidson, Gordon Watts, Chad Gaffield, Lois Sparling, and all of the rank and file of the Canada Census Campaign who put in so much effort to the cause.

For more information, please contact Jeff Paul, Policy Advisor to Senator Milne at 613-947-9744 or at 613-715-2965.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 deemed to have passed Third Reading
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:01:37 -0700

Greetings All.

At 8:10 AM PDT this morning I received a telephone call from the Honourable Senator Lorna Milne.

She advised me that at 8:00 AM PDT MP Dominic LeBlanc, Deputy Government Whip, rose and stated words to the effect that "If the Speaker would seek it, I believe he would have the unanimous consent of the House to deem Bill S-18 -- An Act to amend the Statistics Act, to have passed Third Reading" (not necessarily an exact quote). That consent was given.

Bill S-18 has now passed all necessary stages in both the Senate and the House of Commons and all that remains to be done to make it law is for it to receive Royal Assent. It is expected that assent will be received shortly.

There will be, I am sure, a great deal of cheering and celebrating when that happens. It is believed that the Library and Archives of Canada has already scanned images of the 1911 National Census of Canada and they should be available on line almost immediately.

We should now be able to spend our Summer researching the 1911 records instead of continuing the fight to see them released.

Genealogists and historian owe a GREAT debt of thanks to the perserverance and dedication of the Hon. Senator Lorna Milne, without whose support over the past several years, we would not have achieved this victory.

Those wishing to express their thanks to Senator Milne can do so through her Policy Advisor, Jeff Paul at

PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA

On behalf of Muriel and myself, and all members of the Canada Census Committee, I wish to express our thanks to all who have written letters and email, signed petitions, called their Parliamentary representatives, and generally supported our efforts to regain the public access to Historic Census records we beleived we were always entitled to. I expect that Muriel will likely be forwarding her own message of appreciation as well.

We look forward to hearing some of the stories of success in researching the 1911 Census records.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:51 AM
Subject: [CCC] S-18 is now law

S-18 has been deemed passed 3rd reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE!!!!!!!

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Your cooperation is requested.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:21:36 -0700

Greetings All.

FYI.

Gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon A. Watts
To: MP Gauthier, Michel ; MP Duceppe, Gilles ; Layton.J@parl.gc.ca ; MP
Davies, Libby ; MP Hill, Jay ; OLO@parl.gc.ca ; Prime Minister Paul
Martin
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:14 PM
Subject: Your cooperation is requested.

1455 Delia Drive
Port Coquitlam, BC
V3C 2V9
27 June 2005

Rt. Hon. Paul Martin, Prime Minister
Hon. Tony Valeri - Government House Leader
Hon. Stephen Harper, Leader - Leader of the Opposition
Hon. Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader
Hon. Gilles Duceppe, Leader - Bloc Québécois
Hon. Michel Gauthier - Bloc Québécois House Leader
Hon. Jack Layton, Leader - New Democratic Party
Hon. Libby Davies - NDP House Leader

Gentlemen, and Ms. Davies

Most Canadians have the utmost respect for our Parliamentary system and believe, for the most part, that it works well, and in the interest of the people who it represents. In the past several weeks however, regular watchers of the proceedings of Parliament may have cause to wonder. The political game playing and manoeuvrings of recent weeks are not what Canadians wish to see.

For seven long years, a great many Canadians, and others, have campaigned to regain the public access to Historic Census records, 92 years after collection, that existing legislation states we are already entitled to, but for which we have been denied. That access has been denied us, not because of restrictive legislation or government directive, but simply because of a policy initiated by, and under the control of, Statistics Canada.

Over this period a number of Motions and Bills, both Private Member and Government Bills, have been proposed to resolve the impasse we find ourselves in. These Motions and Bills have received varying degrees of support from the genealogical and historical communities. Each time we have been close to seeing a resolution, a Session of Parliament was prorogued, or an election was called, causing the proposed solutions to die on the Order Paper. Should that happen again, it will mean that we restart our campaign for a fifth time.

Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act is a Bill that all leaders of the Census campaign have committed to support without seeking amendment. This includes leaders of the Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association, and the Association of Canadian Archivists. It is a Bill that has the stated support of the Chief Statistician, the Librarian and Archivist, and the Privacy Commissioner. It is a Bill that will finally put to rest a controversy that has lasted for more than twenty-five years. Bill S-18 has been passed in the Senate and at this time has only to pass Report and Third Reading stages in the House of Commons before it can be presented for Royal Assent and become Law. It is a non-partisan Bill, having widespread support from all Parties in the House. Currently, 216 Members of Parliament have expressed support for the access we seek.

We were pleased that for several days Bill S-18 appeared to have a degree of priority in that it was shown in third place on the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons. Unfortunately, because of the lengthy debates on Bill C-48, Bill S-18 did not reach the floor of the House for Third Reading before the normal date of adjournment for the Summer recess. Bill S-18 no longer appears on the Projected Order of Business.

Sitting days of the House of Commons have been extended to allow further debate and voting on Bills C-48 and C-38. Bill C-48 was passed on Thursday 23 June 2005, leaving only C-38 to be debated in the coming days. We expect it likely the extended sitting days will be adjourned immediately Bill C-38 has been voted on.

We ask you, gentlemen, and Ms. Davies, to show that the Parliamentary process can, and does, work. We ask that you cooperate to include Bill S-18 in the business of the House needing to be completed before Parliament is recessed for the Summer.

The issues involved in public access to Historic Census records have been debated endlessly over the past several years. It is unlikely that anything new can be added to the debate. As such it is expected that the Report and Third Reading stages of Bill S-18 could be completed at the same time, with minimal debate. With unanimous consent of the House it could be deemed to have passed Third Reading without further debate.

We ask that you allow genealogists and historians to spend their Summer researching the long overdue records of the 1911 Census of Canada, instead of having to continue the battle to see them released.

With respect, I remain

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Sitting of House extended
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:02:15 -0700

Greetings All.

Even though through passage of the Motion copied below, the sitting days of the House of Commons have been extended, I think that for all intents and purposes, there is little hope that Bill S-18 will pass Third Reading before Parliament recesses for the summer.

While not reflected in the wording of the Motion, the purpose of the extension of sitting days was to allow the government to see the passage of two specific Bills, i.e. C-48 -- the 'NDP Budget' Bill, and C-38 -- the 'same-sex marriage' Bill.

Bill C-48 was passed before the daily adjournment Thursday, so that leaves only Bill C-38 left on the government agenda. Bill S-18 no longer appears on the Projected Order of Business.

I suspect that immediately debate on Bill C-38 concludes, and a vote on it has been taken, in accordance with the Motion copied below a 'Minister of the Crown' will move adjournment of the House until the Fall sitting. According to the Parliamentary Calendar, the startup date of the Fall sitting is 19 September 2005.

While we had hoped to be able to spend our Summer researching newly released records of the 1911 Census of Canada, it seems we will instead have to keep reminding our MPs of our desire for release of these records.

The Motion passed to extend the sitting days reads as follows:

"That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practice, when the House adjourns on June 23, 2005, it shall stand adjourned until June 27, 2005; at any time on or after June 27, 2005, a Minister of the Crown may propose, without notice, a motion that, upon adjournment on the day on which the said motion is proposed, the House shall stand adjourned to a specified date not more than 95 days later; the said motion immediately shall be deemed to have been adopted, provided that, during the adjournment, for the purposes of any Standing Order, the House shall be deemed to stand adjourned pursuant to Standing Order 28; commencing June 27, 2005 and concluding on the day on which a motion that the House stand adjourned pursuant to this Order is adopted, the ordinary hour of daily adjournment on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays shall be 12:00 midnight; (Government Business No. 17)"

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CCC] S18 for Monday
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:13:14 -0700

Thank you Carol.

As we are only too aware of at this time, being on the Projected Order of Business is not a guarantee that it will get to the floor of the House. We can however, cross our fingers, toes, eyes and whatever else and hope.

S-18 is shown as third in an agenda of six Bills listed. Considering that the House is currently sitting until midnite, we may have a chance. It is my hope that a vote on the Bill will be recorded.

POB for Monday 20 June 2005

S-18 - The Minister of Industry - An Act to amend the Statistics Act - Report Stage
Committee Report - presented on Thursday, June 16, 2005, Sessional Paper No. 8510-381-173.

Motion for third reading - may be made in the same sitting when no report stage motion proposed and the bill is concurred in at that stage, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11).

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "tweetybird" <tweetybirdone@cogeco.ca>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: [CCC] S18 for Monday


S-18 is on the projected business for Monday afternoon 3rd one on the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carol (tweetybird)
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VISIT MY HOME PAGE for information on "Home Children" & H.C. Passenger Lists as well as other "World Wide" Search links
MY FAMILY TREE:< http://www.tweetybirdfamily.bravehost.com/ >
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:59 +0100
Subject: New Look ScotlandsPeople Site
To: "ScotlandsPeople Updates" <scotlandspeople-updates@lists.scotland.net>
From: ScotlandsPeople unmanned@scotlandonline.co.uk

We have previously written to you to let you know of our plans to update the ScotlandsPeople website with some exciting changes and additions. We are delighted to inform you the new site http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk is now up and running.

In addition to the existing indexes and images, ScotlandsPeople now provides access to historical wills and testaments from 1513 - 1901, creating a unified search system for all these sources. To enhance your experience on this site the following upgrades have been made:

*What's in the Database: Includes detailed information on and examples of all record types.

*Document types: These are now colour-coded for easy reference.

*Help & Other Resources and FAQs: These have been greatly expanded and improved.

*Specific Help: This is now available via ? icon for each search form field.

*New Search Site: This new facility allows easy searching of Help, FAQs and Features sections.

*Female death search: Now allows cross-indexing using maiden, married or previous married surnames. More information at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?319 .

*Age at Death unrecorded age checkbox: Checking this box will include those entries between 1855 and 1865 where no age at death was recorded. More information at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?320 .

*Birth year: You may now choose a period of +/- 1, 2, 3, 5 or 10 years around the time of birth. More information at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?322 .

*Parent name in OPR births & baptisms search: Parent name fields can now be populated by any name of either parent. More information at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?276 .

*Census:  Now searchable one year at a time with districts names matching those in statutory search lists and only districts that existed in the census year chosen are offered as options. More information at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?300 .

We hope you continue to enjoy using ScotlandsPeople and are successful in connecting generations.

ScotlandsPeople

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 Reported without amendment
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:47:52 -0700

Greetings All.

Because I spent a good part of today on the road, many of you reading my message will already be aware that Bill S-18 was passed in Committee this morning, and this afternoon was Reported back to the House of Commons WITHOUT amendment. This is good news.
Whether or not it will pass Third Reading before Parliament recesses for the Summer remains to be seen. Only time will tell.
FYI. I copy here a message from Jeff Paul regarding what happened this morning.
My thanks to the 40 or 50 or so individuals who sent me copies of the message they received from MP Brian Masse today. His staff must have been very busy to get all of these messages sent. You are too numerous to thank individually at this time.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: [CCC] Re: S-18 - 3rd reading and passage

Frankly, this bill is not going to be fast tracked, because of the position that has now been taken by the Conservative party. They may now all be opposed to the bill. I'm going to cut and paste my other email into this one and hopefully it will shed some light on the subject.

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

Carol is correct, S-18 passed committee today without amendment. It was a bit of an interesting meeting.

It appeared, more than anything, that Liberal committee chair Brent St. Denis is psychically connected to Gordon Watts - as scary as that sounds. I'll explain why. As was noted, Werner Schmidt, a Conservative, moved the following:

That Bill S-18 in Clause 1 be amended by replacing line 6 on page 1 with the following:

"18.1 (1) The name, address, date of birth, sex and occupation of the respondent and the name of the spouse or common-law partner and children of the respondent and the place of birth and date of immigration contained in the"

The effect of the motion is that ONLY that information listed in the section would be released. So we'd only ever get tombstone information. A short debate ensued where Jerry Picard from the Liberals, Brian Masse from the NDP and Paul Crete of the Bloc voiced loud objections to the amendment. At the risk of pushing the NDP up further in the polls, the quote of the day went to Brian Masse during this exchange. He said "There is a lot more to genealogy than lists of names and dates". Jerry Picard also complained that the amendment would have the effect of gutting the bill. I believe that it was Paul Crete who said that this bill was the product of a negotiated balance, and this amendment would break apart the balance. The officials from Stats Can argued that the cost of the amendment would run into the tens of millions of dollars.

Now here is where the psychic connection comes in. After the debate, Brent St. Denis, Liberal from Algoma-Manitoulin and a good friend of mine, ruled that the amendment was out of order. He relied on the fact that the note accompanying the bill stated that the principle underlying the bill was "unrestricted" access to census records. Since this would dramatically restrict access, the amendment was out of order.

Obviously that did not go over too well. The conservatives did not think the amendment was at all out of order. They made a formal motion to challenge that ruling. Here is where things got even more interesting. The Conservatives, Bloc, NDP, and the parliamentary secretary all voted to overturn the decision of the Liberal chair. They all wanted to vote on the motion itself. The reason for this strange strategy became obviously in about 38 seconds. They immediately proceeded to a vote on the bill.

Mssrs. Chong, Trost, Duncan and Schmidt (all of the Conservative members present) voted in favour of the amendment. Mssrs. Crete, Boulaine, Masse, Myers, Coderre, Picard, and Savoy (all of the Liberal, NDP, and Bloc members present) voted against the motion - defeating it 4-7. Obviously the committee wanted to deal with the amendment on its substance. If the amendment had been killed just by the chair's ruling, that could be challenged on the floor of the House of Commons and it would create a huge mess and much dealy. This is much cleaner and puts the amendment to bed.

The bill should be reported on the floor of the House of Commons today, and I'll keep you posted on when 3rd reading starts.

One more hurdle is done!

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 amendments??
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 20:57:12 -0700

Greetings All.

I am concerned regarding the suggestion that MP Werner Schmidt is going to move an amendment to Bill S-18 that if passed, would limit the information from Historic Census that would be allowed to be released to public access.

There are a couple of things that bother me about this, not the least of which is that in my view, for Conservatives to be making such motions they would be breaking the commitments they made to us earlier in stating that public access to Historic Census records after 92 years was a policy of the Conservative party. In earlier correspondence from them, including from their leader, they stated that 92 years closure was a reasonable period after which the records should be available. It is only with their recent 'form letter' responses that they have been referring to release only of so-called 'tombstone' information.

We have been dealing with this issue for a long time now. We have previously been advised that records from 1911 to 1996 have been microfilmed and there is no way to separate 'tombstone' information from the rest of the records. Considering that to be fact, we are in an 'all or nothing' situation.

Prior to Bill S-18 being introduced in the Senate leaders of the Census campaign were advised, in general terms, what the Bill would contain. We were advised that the government would not consider introducing a bill that did not include the 'informed consent' clause. None of the leaders of the campaign liked, or wanted, an 'informed consent' clause for future Censuses in the Bill. However, considering that S-18, as worded, would give us *unrestricted* access to all records from 1911 to 2001 all leaders committed, albeit some (including myself) reluctantly, to support Bill S-18 without seeking amendment to remove the 'informed consent' provisions.

Should the Committee reviewing Bill S-18 seriously entertain or allow motions to amend that would restrict the access allowed to past Censuses, and in fact pass such amendments, this would in my view, give us reason to reconsider our commitment to not seek amendments ourselves. I sincerely hope the Committee will reject any such motions for amendment.

It is my understanding that some on the Committee suggested extending their hearings to allow for genealogists to appear, but were advised that we wished to forego appearing in order to expedite things. I would personally liked to have appeared before them, but had I sought to do so there would be no way that anything would have been settled before Parliament recessed for the Summer. In the interest of expediting the process I chose not to appear before the Committee, choosing instead to simply make a written submission -- and an abbreviated one at that. Should ANY amendments to Bill S-18 be passed or recommended by the Committee I will very much regret not seeking to appear before them. If, for any reason Bill S-18 is not passed before the Summer recess, I will be seeking to appear before the Committee.

Much of the debate in the House appeared to focus on concern regarding what questions were asked on Census forms, and whether or not such questions should in fact be asked. In point of fact, many of us have similar concerns. However this has nothing whatsoever to do with the purpose of Bill S-18. It could very well be a topic for a future Bill, but not for debate regarding Bill S-18.

A point that those debating S-18 have forgotten, or perhaps have deliberately chosen to ignore, is the fact that existing legislation, in the form of clauses of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations, clearly and specifically states our entitlement to the unrestricted access we seek for 92-year-old Census records.

In point of fact, the access we seek has not been withheld from us because of any prohibitive legislation, or because of any direction of the government. It has been withheld simply because of a departmental 'policy' whereby control of the records would not be returned to the National Archivist - who should have had that control to begin with.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- S-18 hearings
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:18:32 -0700

Greetings All.

FYI

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:57 PM
Subject: [CCC] S-18 hearings

Hi there everyone:

I don't have time for a long update, but here in a nutshell is what happened in committee. The committee heard from Ivan Fellegi, the information commissioner and the privacy commissioner. The information commissioner pushed for amendments that would broaden access to the census, but it was not well received by the committee. Felelgi and the privacy commissioner were very happy with the compromise, and made that clear.

The reception of the evidence was decidedly mixed. Mr. Schmidt indicated that he will be introducing an amendment that would limit the release of census information to tombstone information. The Liberals and one of the Bloc members were quite clearly opposed to that suggestion. The NDP member was generally supportive. Some wanted to extend the hearings to allow for genealogists to come and appear before the committee, but were told that you all wanted to skip the appearance and get on with things.

Clause by clause analysis of the bill will happen tomorrow morning at 9:30am in room 208 West Block.

Jeff Paul

Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - A thank you
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:09:51 -0700

 Greetings All.

In Tuesday's mail (the slow kind from Canada Post) both Muriel and I received a pleasant surprize in the form of large, poster-sized cards sent to us by the organizers of the OGS Seminar 2005, held in Windsor, Ontario on 27 -29 May 2005.

The cards thanked us for our efforts in seeking the return of public access to Historic Census records. They had hundreds of signatures on them from those attending Seminar 2005. Many of the signatures I recognized as belonging to those who have posted messages to the mail lists, signed petitions and written letters in support of the access we seek.

People who volunteer (for whatever cause or organization) seldom do it for the thanks they get. Many times they spend their entire volunteer career without ever receiving a 'thank you'. It is always a pleasant surprize when someone gives you an 'attaboy'.

Muriel will likely also post about this, but on her behalf and mine, I gratefully accept the 'thanks' expressed by these cards. I accept it not only on our behalf, but on behalf of all Canada Census Committee members and all individuals who have helped us in our campaign.

Hopefully our efforts have not been in vain, and we will soon be researching the 1911 Census and be anxiously be awaiting the arrival of subsequent Censuses.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Submission to Committee
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:10:50 -0700

 Greetings All.

As indicated in an earlier post this morning, I copy here FYI my own submission to the House Committee that will be considering Bill S-18. It was sent on the weekend, prior to the Bill being given Second Reading in the House and being referred to the Committee.

Depending on what happens when the Committee meets tomorrow (Wednesday) I may send them an addendum to my submission.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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11 June 2005
Mr. Brent St. Denis, Chairman
House Standing Committee on Industry,
Natural Resources, Science and Technology.
Sixth Floor, 180 Wellington Street
Wellington Building
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6

Dear Sir;

In anticipation that Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act - will soon be referred to the House Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Technology, I make the following submission in support of that Bill.

I am a leader of the campaign that has, for the past several years, sought to regain the public access to Historic Census records that existing legislation states we are currently entitled to. As such, I speak on behalf of many thousands, perhaps millions, of genealogists and historians who wish to utilize Census records to seek their ancestry in Canada.

I have twice appeared before Senate Committees deliberating a Private Member Bill presented by Senator Lorna Milne (S-12), and the first Government Bill brought forth to deal with our concerns (S-13). These Bills, as well as several earlier Bills and Motions intended to resolve the impasse we find ourselves in, died on the Order Paper when the several Sessions of Parliament in which they were presented were prorogued. We were not unhappy with the demise of Bill S-13 as it was, in our opinion, more concerned with preventing access to Historic Census records than it was in providing it.

I might have sought to appear before your Committee to support Bill S-18. However, as we are concerned that Bill S-18 be processed as expeditiously as possible, in the hope that it is passed prior to Parliament recessing for the Summer, I will be content with making my submission in writing.

In making this submission, I could quote chapter and verse of existing legislation that makes specific provision for public access of Canada's Census records, 92 years after collection. I could detail clauses of successive Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census that clearly state records of Census are of value as a historical record, that they were intended to be a permanent record and that they would be stored in the 'Archives of the Dominion' (and would therefore already be under the care and control of the National Archivist). I could detail the endless hours, days, weeks, months and years of research seeking any documented evidence of promises of never-ending confidentiality of Census that Statistics Canada claimed had been made, but could not prove had ever existed.

I could refer you to the 2000 Report of the government appointed Expert Panel on Access to Historical Census Records. I could point out that 240 years of Census records in Canada, up to (now) 1906, are currently accessible by the public, and it was reasonably expected that such access would continue for subsequent Censuses.

I could point out the many faults with the several legal opinions that dealt with specific clauses of legislation in isolation, rather than considering all pertinent clauses of various statutes and Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census. I could point to the August 2000 legal opinion of Ann Chaplin that, when all pertinent clauses of statutes and other documentation were considered, found no intention that records of Census should remain confidential forever. That opinion found no legal impediment that would prevent the return of care and control of Census records to the National Archivist for subsequent public access after 92 years.

I could do all this and more. I have however, already done all this many times during the course of our campaign. I suspect that most Members of the Committee are very familiar with the reasons we seek continued public access to the 1911 and subsequent Census records. As such, there is no need for me to go into them in great detail here.

We do not view Bill S-18 as being perfect. I suspect no Bill would be considered such. We would prefer not to see an 'informed consent' provision for future Censuses. We see no need for it. Our concern regarding this provision is somewhat tempered by the provision for review after two Censuses have been conducted under it.

In excess of 75,000 signatures have been sent on petitions to the House of Commons and the Senate seeking to regain the public access to Historic Census records existing legislation states we are entitled to. To date, 212 Members of Parliament have expressed support for the access we seek. All House leaders and three of four Party leaders have expressed support for that access. Bill S-18 has the support of the Chief Statistician, the National Librarian and Archivist, and the Privacy Commissioner. Leaders of the Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association, and the Association of Canadian Archivists have unanimously committed to support Bill S-18 without seeking amendment to it.

Given sufficient time, and given the support so far expressed for Bill S-18, we have no doubt that Bill S-18 will pass and return to us the access we seek to Historic Census records. Considering the recent uncertainty regarding the life of the current minority government, time is something we may not have enough of. During the course of our campaign we have seen a number of Bills that would give us the access we seek. Four times we have seen those Bills die on the Order Paper when a Session of Parliament was prorogued, or a federal election was called. We do not wish to see the same thing happen with Bill S-18. We would like to see Bill S-18 passed before the current Session of Parliament recesses for the Summer.

We are aware that several Members of Parliament wish to speak to Bill S-18 - hopefully in support thereof. In the interest of speeding up the Parliamentary process we have encouraged the House to deem Bill S-18 to have passed Second Reading (without debate) and be referred to Committee. It is felt that in this manner MPs might speak before the Committee without having to wait for other pressing business to be dealt with in the House.

Public access to Historic Census records is an issue of greatest importance to a great many people. They wish to spend their Summer researching newly released records of the 1911 National Census of Canada, rather than continuing the fight to see them released. Members of your Committee can help make that happen. We ask the Committee, when Bill S-18 is referred to it, to proceed quickly. We ask, if it is possible, that the Committee hear all witnesses in a single meeting, and Report back to the House immediately thereafter.

Thank you for your kind attention to this matter.

Respectfully,

Gordon A. Watts
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Fw: Committee meetings
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:59:47 -0700

 Greetings All.

FYI

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul, Jeff: SEN
To: Gordon A. Watts
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: Committee meetings


I took your email as an opportunity to call the clerk of the committee. The meeting is going to go ahead on Wednesday at 3:30 pm and it will be open to the public. You will see that the notice for the original Wednesday meeting has been taken off of the website. If anyone wants to go, they should go directly to the West Block for 3:15pm tomorrow and head up to the committee room. I'll meet them there.

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

From: Gordon A. Watts [mailto:gordon_watts@telus.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Paul, Jeff: SEN
Subject: Committee meetings
Importance: High

Hi Jeff.

The Senate Committee meetings were open to the public. I am being asked if the same thing applies to the Industry Committee when they consider S-18. The Committee website shows the meeting being held 'In Camera'. Does that mean no public gallery will be available?

If the hearings are open to the public, how should anyone wishing to attend proceed?

Gordon

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate from Hansard posted
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:08:45 -0700

Greetings All.

Yesterday's Second Reading debate of Bill S-18 from Hansard has now been posted to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature.

Follow the Link 'Progress of Bill S-18'.

As I write this only the English language version has been posted. I will add the French language version as soon as I can edit out the extraneous HTML language.

I will later post the submission I have made to the House Committee that will be considering Bill S-18. For those who would also make a submission to the Committee, the email address is INDU@parl.gc.ca

The Committee is expected to meet tomorrow (Wednesday 15 June) so if you are considering making a submission it should be done as soon as possible today.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate makes it to the House
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:28:16 -0700

Greetings All

Second Reading of Bill S-18 finally made it to the floor of the House of Commons today (Monday 13 June) with MP Lloyd St. Amand opening debate.

Debate started in the afternoon (my afternoon in BC). Following a passed deferred vote on a motion that the House sit until midnite each day from 13 June to 23 June, debate on S-18 continued until about 7:35 PM PDT. At that time the House was unanimous in referring Bill S-18 to the House Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Technology.

Two MPs, Lloyd St. Amand and Marc Boulainne, who have never responded to our questions of support, but spoke in favour of access, will be receiving Gold Ticks on the MPs Scoreboards. Werner Schmidt, currently shown as supporting access will see a Red X of Opposition replace his Gold Tick.

There were too many MPs speaking to the Bill, or asking questions of those who did, to list here with summaries of their comments. I will have the debate of S-18 placed on the Post 1901 Census project website as soon as possible after I can access Hansard in the morning (Tuesday). I will post a message when it is available.

The Committee to which Bill S-18 has been referred is scheduled to meet from 3:30 to 5:30 PM (ET) on Wednesday 15 June 2005. As I write this the only thing shown on the agenda for that meeting is 'Committee Business'. It is my understanding however, that Bill S-18 has been expected to be referred and that the Committee is prepared to proceed with discussion of it at that time.

With the number of MPs who indicated during debate they wished to appear before the Committee, and the fact that at least one, and perhaps two MPs intend to move amendments to it, it appears to me unlikely that it will be reported back to the House after only one meeting. Should a motion to amend be successful, it would mean S-18 would have to be returned to the Senate for further debate. To become law, a Bill must be approved in both the Senate and the House with identical wording. Let us hope that any proposed amendments are rejected.

Unfortunately the Parliamentary Webcast website shows the Committee meeting will be held 'in camera' and so will not be available over the Internet. Jeff Paul advises me that he will be in attendance and hopefully he will post something about what takes place. I will be seeking to have the Clerk of the Committee send me a copy of the unrevised transcript of the meeting.

I will be on the road on Wednesday but will have my laptop and cellphone with me. I will let you know if I am advised of any information coming out of the Committee meeting.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Another gold tick awarded!
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:49:15 -0700

Greetings All.

With a Gold Tick of Support awarded today to Bloc MP Pierre Paquette, we are now up to 213 Members of Parliament who have expressed support for the public access to Historic Census records that we seek to have returned to us.

There are currently 37 MPs that have given non-committal responses to our questions of support, 1 that has responded negatively, and 57 who have not afforded us the courtesy of any kind of response at all.

Check the Scoreboards at the Post 1901 Census Project website to see how your MP has responded.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:39:26 -0700
From: "Lynda M. Cunningham"
Subject: BC Cemeteries

 The subject of how many cemeteries there are and where they, who has recorded them etc. has come up a number of times at our meetings. I've stumbled across an interesting page on the net where someone is trying to do this for the country! http://www.continue.to/cgwcem
Thought you might want to have a look.

Lynda

Excerpt:- Welcome to CanadaGenWeb's Cemetery Project

 The goals of this project are:
 # To locate every cemetery in Canada (street address; Township; Lot & Concession; GPS)
 # To provide information about every cemetery (date of first interment; whether closed, private or still accepting interments; etc.)
 # To provide transcript locations (links to those online; purchase information for those offline)
 # To host transcripts and cemetery indexes that are submitted by visitors. This project won't focus on transcript submission but will offer the option to those who wish to provide a transcript.
 
# To make the project as searchable as possible. Cemeteries will be searchable by name of cemetery; Each province and territory will have a surname index; Indexes for transcripts are welcome to be added to the search as well.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject: Re - [CCC] S-18
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:37:09 -0700
Organization: Canada Census Campaign

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [CCC] S-18

Sorry everyone. I mistyped Werner Schmidt's email address. The proper address is: Schmidt.W@parl.gc.ca

Thanks for all your help.

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:58:08 -0700

 Greetings All.

The message below was forwarded from the Office of Senator Lorna Milne.

As requested for my message yesterday, please DO **NOT** COPY AND FORWARD THIS MESSAGE to the Members indicated below. USE YOUR OWN WORDS.

Your message need not be lengthy. Keep to the key points that time is of the essence in seeing Bill S-18 processed through the House as expeditiously as possible. With other business possibly considered more pressing it appears unlikely that S-18 will soon be debated in the House of Commons. With this in mind we seek consent of the House to have Bill S-18 deemed to have passed Second Reading (without debate) and Referral to Committee so that those MPs wishing to speak to the Bill might do so in Committee.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:34 AM
Subject: [CCC] URGENT EMAIL REQUEST!!!!


Hi there gang:

It seems that Parliament might be running out of time to get S-18 passed.

All parties have indicated their support for the bill, but there are some MPs who want to speak at second reading. With so much going on in such a short time, it will now be difficult to secure floor time for debate on S-18 in the House. So we need your help to encourage MPs who want to speak on the bill to air their concerns in committee.

I would ask that you write to a few key MPs and encourage them to send the bill to committee without debate. Please signal to them that this is the best and most fair way to proceed. In particular I would suggest that you should write to the following MPs:

Brian Masse (NDP) Masse.B@parl.gc.ca
Paul Créte (Bloc Vice Chair of Industry Committee) Crete.P@parl.gc.ca
James Rajotte (Conservative) Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca
Jay Hill (Conservative House Leader) Hill.J@parl.gc.ca
Stephen Harper (Conservative Leader) Harper.S@parl.gc.ca
Werner Schmidt (Conservative Vice Chair of Industry Committee) Schmidt.S@parl.gc.ca
Michael Chong (Conservative Industry Committee member) Chong.M@parl.gc.ca
Bradley Trost (Conservative Industry Committee member) Trost.B@parl.gc.ca
John Duncan (Conservative Industry Committee member) Duncan.J@parl.gc.ca

Our key message is that S-18 needs to be sent to Committee - specifically, this requires consent from all Parties to deem S-18 Reported to Committee (without debate). Senator Milne is fully supportive of this request and hopes that as many of you as humanly possible send out an email ASAP.

Thanks everyone!

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Info" <Info@familytree.co.za>
To: "bcgs@bcgs.ca" <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: South African Genealogy Records
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:59:00 +0200

 
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I would like to take this opportunity of giving you a brief overview of what our web site includes as I am sure that any person with historical links to South Africa will benefit from this site.

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British Families is one of the first publications documented on South African surnames of British origin. This work lists more than 1100 surnames, their meanings and origins. It also includes many different coats of arms. This is product is a real must for all family historians in South Africa. (Searchable Text)

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Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-060-7

Cape Commando Series
This e-publication is a treasure of information for any history and Anglo-Boer War enthusiast. The multitude of maps and photographs and the excellent manner in which Taffy and David Shearing conducted their research into the Anglo-Boer War will ensure that this is a pride product in any person’s collection. (Searchable Text)

CD-ROM
Retail price: R160.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-002-x

Geslagregisters van ou Kaapse Families

The work of this book not only unique in South Africa but in the whole world. In no other country does a book exist that contains the genealogical records of all its families from the very year of its foundation until more than two centuries afterwards.

In the tables of descent which constitute the main part of this work, genealogical symbols have been used, which will be intelligible in any language. In so far as Afrikaans words have nevertheless been used in this part, a translation of these into English will be found at the end of the last volume. In this way both sections of the population should be able to use the work without much difficulty.

This comprehensive and rare book has now been made available in a unique searchable format. Generations of families can be easily navigated by expanding or shrinking.

Genealogists together form an invisible brotherhood in which the one can usually rely on the help of the others, without them this book would not have been made possible. (Searchable Text) CD-ROM
Retail price: R130.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN: 1-86918-040-2

South African Encyclopedia

The South Africa Encyclopedia (SAE) is not only South Africa’s first multi-media electronic encyclopedia, but also the first of its kind to be written and published in its entirety since the watershed year of 1994. Specially compiled for the South African market, it presents – apart from historical reviews and subject field introductions – up-to-date information on current issues, discoveries and developments in all categories – from a South African perspective!

With thousands of articles, information boxes, photographs, illustrations, maps and diagrams, as well as many extras such as a video library and a newly updated South African political section, the South African Encyclopedia is an exclusive research resource for all schoolchildren and lifelong learners. Its content has been drawn from the most credible media source available, such as M-Net, SABC, Learning Online as well as leading journalists, authors and established publishers. Whatever subject you’re looking for – quantum computers or the new face of international terrorism – you’ll find it in one user-friendly product.

The SAE is published in both Afrikaans and English on separate CDs. (Searchable Text)
CD-ROM
Retail price: R262.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-009-7 (Afrikaans)
ISBN 1-86918-010-0 (English)

Strangely Familiar - South African Narratives on Town and Countryside
Eleven scholars from various fields focus on the process of industrialisation and urbanisation which so deeply affected everyone in the country. It focuses on the historiographic presentations of the process, as well as the literary portrayal of country and city in the various languages of South Africa. It is an attempt to break some of the barriers of the past, it is a step towards the creation of a communal history for and about South Africa. Although the many differences in experience and tradition among the peoples of South Africa are not denied or ignored, the book breaks through the isolation of the past; to show that what seemed to be so strange in “the other” is in fact not totally strange, but “strangely familiar”. (Searchable Text)
CD-ROM Retail price: R85.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-919890-96-3

Book
Retail price: R130.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-919890-46-7

Biographical Dictionary

This dictionary covers more than 28,000 notable men and women who have shaped our world from ancient times to the present day.
The dictionary can be searched by birth years, death years, positions held, professions, literary and artistic works, achievements, and other keywords.

The Biographical Dictionary is valuable classroom resource as well as for students and family historians. (Searchable Text)
CD-ROM
Retail Price R130.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN: 1-86918-043-7

The Story of the Settlement – Grahamstown

The History of Grahamstown is so inseparably bound up with that of English colonization in South Africa, that a correct record of the one, if elaborated upon as it could and should be, would comprise the true story of the other. From the day of its establishment to the present time, it has occupied a most prominent position in every movement which had for its object the political, commercial, religious, or social advancement of the Cape Colony. Every step that has marked its growth may aptly be described as the evidence of the growth in South Africa of English influence and English colonization. As the primitive buildings which formed the military post out of which it has grown disappeared to give place to more substantial buildings and residences, and the semblance of a town sprung up in the valley so wisely selected as the site of the future. (Searchable Text)
CD-ROM
Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN: 1-86918-042-9

The Lonely Island by Rose Annie Rogers

This wonderful book was written by WIFE OF THE LATE HENRY MARTYN ROGERS MISSIONARY PRIEST on the island of TRISTAN DA CUNHA.
This book's aim is merely to describe in familiar terms the daily life of the quaintest and most isolated community in the British Empire. At Tristan da Cunha even the ordinary happenings of everyday life seem to take on a glow of romance, and commonplace folk come to fill conspicuous places in our interest which in a larger setting are denied to them. In this book Rose has introduced the islanders to the readers by name, and has done this in the hope that you will feel a more intimate and personal interest in them. (Searchable Text)

CD-ROM
Retail Price R85.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN: 1-86918-039-9

The Cape Of Good Hope Official Handbook - 1886

Originally published by Saul Solomon & Co. This wonderful book gives a fascinating, in depth look at the social, historical and economic structures of the Cape of Good Hope. It is a contemporary account edited by John Noble. Areas and topics covered in this book are:
• Discovery and early History of the Cape.
• Temporary Occupation by the British.
• The Cape under British Dominion
• Physical aspects of the Colony
• Cities and towns of the Colony
• Political and Civil Institutions of the Colony
• Roads, Telegraph, Railways, Harbours and Irrigation Works.
• Cape Woods and Forests
• The Cape as a Health Resort
• Diamond Mining in the Cape
• Land and Agricultural and Pastoral Occupations
• Wool
• Ostrich Farming
• Viticulture
• Manufactories, Mines and Minerals
• Sketch of the Flora of South Africa
• Statistics of Population, Revenue, Commerce and Customs Tariff
• Advertisements
• Sketches in colour and black and white included
(PDF)
CD-ROM
Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-052-6

The South African Directory and Almanac of 1835

Published just after the official abolition of slavery at the Cape of Good Hope on 1st December 1834, this Directory & Almanac lists a wealth of names, occupations and addresses of the residents of Cape Town and environs, including Green Point. It also lists a number of freed slaves and their occupations.

There is a comprehensive list of Military Officers (their ranks and dates of commission) as well as Military and Civil pensioners and how much they received in pension.

This Directory has a very special section called "Chronology of Remarkable Events" which begins in 1492 with Bartholomeus Diaz discovering the Cape and goes on to document noteworthy events that affected the lives of the residents at the Cape until 1834. In 1809 for example there was "an attempt to light the Heerengracht" and on December 4th of the same year there was "an earthquake in Cape Town." In May 1830 Table Mountain was ravaged by fire and in June of the same year "two enormous masses of rock" fell from the mountain

This work will give the researcher a valuable insight into the social history of the Cape in 1835.
• Inhabitants of Cape Town including Green Point. Alphabetically indexed.
• Details of office bearers in Simon's Town, Stellenbosch, Paarl, Somerset (Hottentot's Holland), Worcester, Tulbagh, Clanwilliam, Swellendam, Caledon, George, Plettenberg Bay, Uitenhage, Algoa Bay, Port Elizabeth, Albany, Bathurst, Somerset, Cradock, Glen Lynden, Graaff-Reinet and Beaufort.
• Details of the Civil Establishment
• Cape Colonial Signals
• List of Civil and Military Pensioners and their earnings
• Port Instructions for Table Bay
• Governors of the Cape of Good Hope
• A detailed map of Cape Town (this has been separately scanned and saved in Jpg format for better quality when zooming in on specific areas)
• Obituaries for the year 1834
• It has a comprehensive Horticultural & Agricultural calendar as well as matters dealing with eclipses.
• A full calendar for 1835 with events marked.
(PDF) CD-ROM
Retail price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-051-8

1900 Juta's Directory of Cape Town

This directory is crammed with the names of people and their businesses. It covers Cape Town and environs including Woodstock to Wynberg, Plumstead to Fish Hoek, Sea Point, Green Point, Mouille Point and Simonstown. The great thing about this particular directory is that it has an alphabetical street directory as well as an alphabetical residents directory so that it is possible to look up who lived near to your ancestors. A separate Trades and Professions directory is arranged by type of business and gives names and addresses. Well worth adding to your collection.
CD-ROM Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-053-4

1902 Municipal Voters Roll of Cape Town

The Anglo-Boer War had just ended and many households were changed forever but the business of life had to continue. This publication contains the names of those eligible to vote in the Municipal Districts of Cape Town - these were districts 1 to 6 (the famous District Six). Eligibility to vote was based on property ownership and a person could have up to 3 votes depending on the value of the property owned. There are thousands of names represented in this publication. A typical entry would include the following information:
• Name of Voter: Abdollah, Mohamet
• Occupation: Grocer
• Address: C/o Bruce & Balmoral Streets
• Value of Property: £450
• Number of Votes: 1
• Other qualifying properties: None
• Or Name of Voter: Harwood, Miss Kate Elizabeth
• Occupation: Typist
• Address: 28 St George's Street
• Value of Property: £15 000
• Number of Votes: 3
• Other qualifying properties: None
A valuable record of property ownership in Cape Town.
(PDF) CD-ROM
Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-054-2 PDF Format
ISBN 1-86918-080-1 Full Text

Under Lions Head – by Marischal Murray

Marischal Murray has compiled a superbly researched history of the suburbs nestling on the slopes of Lion’s Head namely Green Point, Sea Point, Three Anchor Bay, Fresnaye, Mouille Point and more. Chapters deal with its earliest discovery, the first landowners, the first municipality, early shops, churches, the trams and railways, schools, leisure activities, the personalities and the grand old houses, all richly woven together with interesting and lively snippets from days gone by. Over 60 photographs and paintings accompany the text. (PDF or Full text) CD format; 168 pages, 63 illustrations CD-ROM
Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN: 1-86918-037-2 PDF
ISBN: 1-86918-047-x Full Text

1829 Cape Almanac

Printed twenty three years into the Second British Occupation of the Cape, this Cape Directory & Almanac shows the change in Civil Servants and Officials as well as the residents of the Cape.
Some of the subjects covered are:
• Inhabitants of Cape Town & Environs (alphabetical list)
• Military Officers & Personnel
• Naval Officers & Personnel
• Colonial Officials
• Civil Servant Lists
• Judiciary Lists
• Field-Cornets
• Clergy Lists
• Shipping Activity, Cargoes & Destinations
• Wardmasters
• Registrar of Slaves
• Currency Conversions
• Tax Information
• Customs Information
• Tides and Lunar Charts
• Eclipses
• Signals used by Shipping
• Gardener's Calendar
• Banking Information
• Masonic Lodges
• Societies, Charities and Committees
• Table of Fees (governing all aspects of Trade and Commerce)
(PDF) CD-ROM
Retail price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-046-1

1849 Cape Almanac

A valuable glimpse into the Cape of the mid 19th century:
• List of Residents of Cape Town - names & addresses
• List of Residents of Wynberg and southern suburbs.
• Arrivals and departure of shipping
• Bank Transactions
• Cape Colonial Signs used in Telegraphic communications
• Civil Establishments
• Customs House Notices
• Exchanges, Monies, weights and measures
• Gardeners Calendar
• Government Notices
• Imports & Exports
• List of Civil Servants
• List of Military Officers and personnel
• List of Naval officers and personnel
• Lists of Advocates, lawyers, ministers & school teachers
• Lists of Civil Pensioners and what they earned
• Local Institutions
• Medicinal Recipes
• Military Establishments personnel
• Naval Establishments
• Notices to Mariners
• Schedule of Tax's, Duties, Fees, and all other sources of Revenue
• Societies and Associations
• Titles of Ordinances
(PDF)
CD-ROM
Retail Price R100.00 (excl. VAT + Shipping)
ISBN 1-86918-048-8

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Scots Chatter
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:19:24 -0700

 
Greetings, a couple of items that may be of interest. Regards, the other Ron

1. Professional Piobaireachd Competition, a special feature of the Highland Games. Piobaireachd is the classical music of the Great Highland Bagpipe. The oldest tunes go back in time at least 500 years. The music celebrates the joys and sorrows of ancient events in the life of the Gael.
WHERE: The Evergreen Theatre, 1205 Pinetree Way - north off Lougheed at the Mall and up the hill – Coquitlam. Phone: 604 927-6550
WHEN: Friday, June 24, 2005
TIME: 6 P.M. (the time has been moved ahead from what was originally posted on the website)
TICKETS: $12.00 ($8.00 for seniors and students). This ticket will also admit you to the Highland Games on Saturday.
Information: Ron Sutherland at 604-988-0479, email ronald_sutherland@sfu.ca, or, 604-538-5709, email jrmacleod@telus.net

2. The following article, with a picture, can be viewed at http://heritage.scotsman.com/traditions.cfm?id=489622005&20050606231325
For those who have difficulty accessing the internet, I include the article without a picture of “young” Harry McGrath

Changing times for British Columbia Scots by Paula Baker

WHEN HARRY McGrath walks into the Vancouver Burns Club he's often greeted by the members with "Good to see you, son."

While it's not an unusual salutation, it is one that brings a smile accompanied by a light chuckle to McGrath considering he's 50.

Undoubtedly it's amusing to the silver-haired Glaswegian, who is the coordinator of the Centre for Scottish Studies (CSS) at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, British Columbia, and is often the youngest by almost two decades at such gatherings.

It does, however, speak of a larger demographic problem that afflicts most of the Scottish societies in British Columbia's lower mainland. Their members are getting older – the average age is around 75 – and new blood is scarce for these traditional Scottish societies in Vancouver.

Scottish societies began springing up in the 1930s but the decline began a quarter century ago. Since then the original number of societies in the greater Vancouver area has declined from almost half of the original 28.

"Our club consists of 50 Scottish males that are ageing and their children (first- and second-generation Canadians) don't really seem to be interested in being part of the society," says Ian Mason, who is president of Vancouver Burns Club (VBC) and at 67 joins McGrath in being one of the youngest members.

"I understand what we offer – an intellectual social club that thinks about Scottish poetry, history and heritage – isn't what a 22-year-old male would be interested in. But even so, I don't know what I'm going to do about our sliding numbers."

Mason is entertaining the idea of making VBC a co-ed society to bolster his numbers but ultimately believes a lot of the problem stems from a stronger economy in Britain, which has decreased the number of Scottish immigrants moving to Canada.

Moray, Nairn and Banff Society's former president Isla Robertson and Sons of Scotland Grand Chieftain Jim Bain don't disagree with Mason's theory, but they view the attrition problem as more of a sign of the changing times. Since the mid-1970s both societies have had an open-door policy. When it comes to new members, the only prerequisite is to have a keen interest in anything Scottish.

Which begs the question: If members are coming from a diverse ethnic background and are not truly Scottish, won' t there be an eventual erosion of Scottish culture and heritage in the Vancouver area? Not at all, says Bain.
I think it's important to reach out to the whole community – not just Scots – that's the only way you save things. Jim Bain

"I think it's fairly strong here but just not in the real formalised sense," he explains. "I think if you check out the BC Pipers or Scottish Dance BC you"ll find out they're very strong, or go to our Highland games in Coquitlam and we draw in more than 11,000 people.

"I think it's important to reach out to the whole community – not just Scots – that's the only way you save things," Bain feels. "You'll never save it by holding it to yourself. You'll save it by letting everyone have a piece of it and letting everyone enjoy it."

Robertson believes when you look at the societies' original purpose and what they offer today it's obvious they've almost run their course.

"Back in the 1930s when (Moray, Nairn and Banff Society) was formed it was like a support group for people from those three counties," Robertson explains. "It was a place for new Scottish immigrants (in Canada) to meet people, to speak their dialect and for someone to explain the system (like schools) in their new home.

"But that need to seek companionship from your people is no longer there and hasn't been for quite some time," Robertson continues. "As the second and third generations (of Canadian-born Scots) come along they are Canadians and they integrate into Canadian society."

As Bain points out, societies in lower mainland British Columbia are seeing declining numbers or poor participation while local organisations like the BC Pipers Association (BCPA) and Scottish Country Dancing are growing in size each year.

"We're seeing a two to five per cent increase each year that is heavily youth-oriented," says Rob MacNeil, president of the BCPA and manager of special projects for the Simon Fraser University (SFU) pipe band. "We have a range of ethnic backgrounds participating in our programs and they're just drawn to us because we offer something attractive to them. It's both the music and the past successes we've had with the SFU pipe band being world champions that brings them to us."
On the web
Find out more about Simon Fraser University at: www.sfu.ca

And the "youngster" of the group is also doing his part to capture and maintain Scottish history in the Vancouver area given the fact that his countrymen and women played an integral role in the shaping the economic, political and cultural landscape. In 2003, McGrath and the Centre for Scottish Studies saw a need to identify, collect and preserve the records for an archival collection of the Scottish community that at one time (in 1961) made up 15.7 per cent of the total population in British Columbia.

"The archives are now available to academics, students or to anyone with a general interest in the history of the Scots in this province," McGrath says. "The materials we've collected include society records, personal letters, diaries, newspaper clippings, Highland games programmes and reminiscences."

And as a historian determined to preserve Scottish heritage, McGrath's stance on the dying societies is mixed. "While some groups are getting stronger as others fade," he says, "ultimately Scottish culture and traditions will survive because what they're doing is reinventing themselves here in Canada."

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Request for support messages
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:13:16 -0700

 
Greetings All.

I have been asked to pass the following on to supporters of Bill S-18 and public access to Historic Census records. While known to me, the individual requesting this has asked to remain anonymous to the public.
"An informed source requests that e-mails of support [for Bill S-18] be immediately sent to four M.P.s:

Brian Masse (NDP) Masse.B@parl.gc.ca
Paul Créte (Bloc) Crete.P@parl.gc.ca
Mauril Belanger (Liberal) Belanger.M@parl.gc.ca
James Rajotte (Conservative) Rajotte.J@parl.gc.ca

This source also expects a statement to be made in the House tomorrow [Friday 10 June] in order to advance the bill [S-18]."
In sending messages of support for Bill S-18 to these, or other MPs, please use your own words. Do not just copy this message to them.

Thank you all for your support.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>, "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House sitting days
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:11:07 -0700

 Thanks Leland.

You beat me to it - again! My ADSL connection was down last evening so I was unable to access the POB until this morning.

I have come to the conclusion that just because S-18 appears on the POB it does not necessarily mean it WILL be debated (obviously) -- only that it MIGHT be debated.

So far as the 'on-again, off-again' appearance of Bill S-18 on the POB is concerned, it seems that other than on 'allocated' days, S-18 will appear until it has finally been dealt with. As has been the case for some time now, our greatest problem is time.

At least on the POB for today, S-18 is not the last item under Government Orders. That does not necessarily mean anything, however. We will wait and see.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House sitting days

Gordon:

S-18 is back on the Projected Order of Business again today, Wednesday 8 June; third after C-22 and C-26.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/projected/projected-E.htm

Stay tuned for more high drama on CPAC which should come with a warning, "may cause nausea, viewers are strongly cautioned".

Leland Harvie
Halifax, Nova Scotia

Date forwarded: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:57:21 -0600
From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Date sent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:01:35 -0700
Organization: Canada Census Campaign
To: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com
Forwarded by: CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House sitting days

 Greetings All.

 Once again, even though Second Reading of Bill S-18 was listed on the  Projected Order of Business for Monday 6 June 2005, it was not debated.
 It does not appear on the POB for today (Tuesday). Today and Thursday  are 'allocated' days and so I do not expect S-18 to be on the agenda
for> Thursday either. As to Wednesday or Friday, it is anybodies guess.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - House sitting days
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:01:35 -0700

 Greetings All.

Once again, even though Second Reading of Bill S-18 was listed on the Projected Order of Business for Monday 6 June 2005, it was not debated. It does not appear on the POB for today (Tuesday). Today and Thursday are 'allocated' days and so I do not expect S-18 to be on the agenda for Thursday either. As to Wednesday or Friday, it is anybodies guess.

According to the Parliamentary Calendar, Friday would be the normal last day of sitting of the House of Commons. It would appear however that the sitting will be extended, possibly for another two weeks, until 23 June.

On Thursday last, the Hon. Tony Valeri (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) gave a projection of the business expected to be conducted in the House for this week. Included in that projection were Bills C-43, C-22, S-18 and C-52. He made reference to the House sitting 'during the next three weeks', lending credence to the belief the House will sit until 23 June.

In watching political news on CPAC last evening, an MP being interviewed (I forget which one) made reference to his party being prepared to sit 'into the summer' to deal with the issue being discussed. While this may be a possibility, I do not expect it to happen.

With the 'form letter' responses being received from Conservative MPs re: our requests to 'fast-track' Bill S-18 by foregoing the Committee and Report stages of Bill S-18, I am not optimistic that this is likely to happen. While supporting the access we seek, these responses make reference to wishing to hear from the Chief Statistician and Privacy Commissioner, and that would not happen if the Committee stage were to be bypassed. It appears unlikely at this time that a Conservative MP would make a motion to pass S-18 in a single day, and should the government make such a motion there could be some oppostion to it.

There has been some indication that the Committee to which Bill S-18 would be referred has been prepared to deal with it as expeditiously as possible. Presumably, with the expectation that it would be dealt with in the House and the referral made, indications are that S-18 may have been on the proposed agenda of the Committee a number of times. Unfortunately, as we all know, that referral has not yet been made.

As I have indicated before, I am not optimistic that we will see passage of Bill S-18 before Parliament recesses for the summer. It would seem that we will once again be spending our summer fighting for the access we seek, rather than researching newly released records of the 1911 National Census records. I would love to be proven wrong in this.

We need everyone to continue urging their MPs to support Bill S-18 to see it passed as quickly as possible. Do not allow them to think that we have given up seeking the access to Historic Census records that existing legislation states we are entitled to.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Permission to forward without notice is granted


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From: "Linda & Brian Jones" <brian.jones6@sympatico.ca>
To: <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: The Year of the Veteran
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 15:39:59 -0400 
YNH Books
c/o
Brian Jones
10 McConnell Lane
Newmarket, On
L3Y 7M1
Brian.jones6@sympatico.ca

Dear Historical Organizations and members,

This year of 2005 has been declared the Year of the Veteran coinciding with the 60th anniversary of the end of the Second World War. I have written a book entitled Thoughts of Our Canadian Soldiers at War that is meant to act as a catalyst of what our soldiers and veterans did for our country.
I am asking you to consider purchasing a copy or more so we as adults may carry the torch for those who cannot and have our youth do the same.
The cost of one copy is $7.00 and I do charge a small fee for postage. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,

Brian Jones.

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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:50:05 -0700
From: Wendy Graham <wendy@oxide.org>
Subject: Mountain view
To:
 
Dear Lorraine,

I'm sorry I was too late to reach you regarding this event, but I'm including my sister Lynn in this e-mail in case she can tell us more in the future. Basically she has mentioned some change in the zoning of the cemetery to Industrial (?), and that our Councilor Ann Roberts would be an appropriate contact to find out about the changes that have been happening.

Wendy

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/NONMARKETOPERATIONS/MOUNTAINVIEW/history/index2.htm
http://vancouver.ca/bylaws/75279v1.pdf

May 25, 2005
Mountain View Cemetery engages artist in residence The City of Vancouver's Mountain View Cemetery announced that its first artist in residence will be Paula Jardine, the artistic director of the Public Dreams Society. Ms Jardine's work at the cemetery will involve public workshops and presentations, and will culminate in an “All Souls” event on October 29.

The artist-in-residence program at Mountain View Cemetery is part of an overall redevelopment of the cemetery located at Fraser and 39th. Approved by Council in March 2000, the Master Plan will shape and guide the development of the cemetery for the next century.

"Part of the redevelopment of Mountain View is to revive and develop the role of the cemetery in the community," says Glen Hodges, Manager of Mountain View Cemetery. “Programming events like an All Souls evening is one way to do this.”

The public are invited to attend an informal evening to discuss the planning of the All Souls event on:

Thursday, June 2nd, 7:30-9 p.m.
Mountain View Cemetery Office
5455 Fraser Street (entrance off Fraser at 39th)

The All Souls event attempts to address the spiritual needs of an increasingly secular population. "People will bring their own religious and cultural traditions to the event. The event is both about honouring old traditions and creating new ones," says Jardine. Elements to be considered for the October event include acoustic music, candles, flowers, food, and poetry.

Partnering with the local agency Multicultural Helping House, the project also hopes to involve youth from the two neighbouring high schools - John Oliver and Sir Charles Tupper. Throughout October, workshops on topics such as memorial lantern making, and presentations on funeral rites and practices, and other issues of art, death and remembrance, will be offered.

For more information contact:
Glen Hodges, 604.325.2623
Manager, Mountain View Cemetery

Paula Jardine, 250.384.5050
Artist in Residence, Mountain View Cemetery

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: SFU Pipe Band
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:22:15 -0700

 Greetings, three concerts by the SFU Pipe Band. They are preparing for another go at the World’s Piping Championship in Scotland in August. Your support will be very much appreciated. You will be a winner whichever concert you attend. Regards, the other Ron

CONCERT NUMBER ONE:

WHAT: the kiltless senior Band in Concert
WHEN: Thursday, June 30, 2005
TIME: 7:00 PM
WHERE: SFU Theater, Burnaby Mountain campus
COST: $15.00

CONCERT NUMBER TWO:

WHAT: the Band in full dress array
WHEN: Friday, July 1, 2005
TIME: 7:00 PM
WHERE: SFU Theater, Burnaby Mountain campus
COST: $25.00

CONCERT NUMBER THREE:

WHAT: the Band in full dress array
WHEN: Saturday, July 2, 2005
TIME: 7:00 PM
WHERE: SFU Theater, Burnaby Mountain campus
COST: $25.00

TICKETS:
1. Go to the the band’s website at www.sfupipeband.com (no service charge)
2. Call Jack Lee at 604-574-3299 (no service charge), or,
3. Ticketmaster at 604-280-4444

During the 3 concerts, the Four-Time World Champions will be recording their much-anticipated 9th CD entitled "On Home Ground".
Autographed CDs can be ordered at the concerts or from www.sfupipeband.com.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business.
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:27:37 -0700

 Greetings All

In making the 'Weekly Statement", just now given in the House of Commons, regarding what business will be dealt with in the House of Commons for the coming week, Bill S-18 was included once again. It was not at the bottom of the list this time, but there were, I believe, three Bills listed ahead of it.

With the number of Bills cited, and the number of Opposition Days yet to be allocated, it is looking more like the Session will not recess on 9 June, but will be extended for some as yet unspecified number of sitting days. This is simply speculation on my part as I have not yet seen anything official regarding this, and I have had no response from my query to the Parliament website.

Time will tell.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 08:12:54 -0700
From: d rogers <diane_rogers@shaw.ca>
Subject: BCGS Genealogy News Page---Fw: [C-O-S] Archives Reading Rooms Closure
To: Robert Daniel <bcgs@bcgs.ca>

 Hello, Bob;
Could we post this information on our News webpage? Many of us who are doing Canadian genealogical research in Ontario are very concerned about this issue. I've planned a trip to the Ontario Archives myself the end of the month.
Thanks,
Diane R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathie Orr" <kathie.orr@sympatico.ca>
To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:03 AM
Subject: [C-O-S] Archives Reading Rooms Closure


Since October of 2004, I have been keeping the list updated concerning the need for a new public access building for the Archives of Ontario. I have described the deplorable conditions of the present building and the need for action to be taken.

I have asked list members to help by written to the Hon Gerry Phillips, the Hon David Caplan, Premier Dalton McGuinty, the opposition parties and their local MPP.

We need your help more that ever - researchers arrived at the Archives on Tuesday May 31st to find the doors locked. The public reading rooms were closed due to concerns that floors in the building might collapse.
According to Ian Urquhart's article in today's (June 1st) Toronto Star the concern stemmed from an engineering report tabled at a meeting on Monday. The  report by a senior engineer stated that "numerous cracks were observed" on columns on the 2nd floor. That the cracks were "an indication of overloading of the slab" and "shear failure in a slab may occur suddenly without prior warning." The engineers did a further examination on Tuesday and determined that building is fine, that it could be reopen but they have recommended that the cracked columns be reinforced with steel collars.

So the public again has access but for how long?

We need a new building now. The present building could be permanently closed due to health and safety concerns. It could take three years or more to get a new proper archival site in place.

Please either write or email the people below - be polite but firm tell  them of your concern regarding the state of the present building with its mould and structural stress. Be firm in the need for a new building to be within the downtown core of Toronto, close to transportation, accessible for all and that we want action now. Remember to include you full name and postal mailing address if you use email.

The ministers responsible are

Hon. Gerry Phillips, he is the member for Scarborough - Agincourt and the Chair of Management Board of Cabinet. The Archives of Ontario is part of Management Board. His contact information is gphillips.mpp@liberal.ola.org

You can write to the Minister at Management Board Secretariat, 77 Wellesley St W, 12th Flr, Ferguson Block, Toronto ON M7A 1N3. His constituency office is at 204 - 4002 Sheppard Ave E., Scarborough ON M1S 4R5

Hon David Caplan Minister of Public Infrastructure Renewal His email is dcaplan.mpp@liberal.ola.org  or you can write to him at Ministry of Public Infrastructure Renewal, 7 Queen's Park Cres, 6th Flr, Frost Bldg South Toronto ON M7A 1Y7

We also need to contact Premier Dalton McGuinty to send an email directly to the premier's office dalton.mcguinty@premier.gov.on.ca   His contact information is Queen's Park, Rm 281, Main Legislative Building, Toronto ON M7A 1A4

Contact your local MPP -- for their contact information go to http://olaap.ontla.on.ca/mpp/daCurRdg.do?locale=en&ord=LASTNAME

If you do not know who you member is or the riding you are in go to Elections Ontario and click on "Find Your Electoral District" http://www.electionsontario.on.ca/en/home_en.shtml

Other people to contact

John Tory, Leader of the Progressive Conservative Party Room 200, North Wing, Legislative Building, Queen's Park, Toronto ON M7A 1A8
john.tory@pc.ola.org

Howard Hampton, Leader, New Democratic Party of Ontario hhampton-qp@ndp.on.ca  Queen's Park, Rm 114, Main Legislative Building, Toronto ON M7A 1A4

John Yakabuski Conservative Critic, Management Board of Cabinet john_yakabuski@ontla.ola.org Room 202 North Wing Legislative Building, Queens Park M7A 1A8

Michael D. Prue mprue-qp@ndp.on.ca New Democratic Party of Ontario, Critic, Management Board of Cabinet Rm 153, Main Legislative Building Toronto ON M7A 1A4

Do not leave it to others please write.

Kathie Orr

_________________________________________________________
KORR Services
405 - 100 Maitland St., Toronto, ON M4Y 1E2
416-944-1794 Fax 416-944-3632 kathie.orr@sympatico.ca stay in touch with your past to ensure your future

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - New column posted........
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:54:47 -0700

Greetings All.

The latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census campaign has now been posted. Topics are 'Progress of Bill S-18', 'Saving Australia's Census', and 'Information Commissioner's Application for Review'.

It may be accessed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce116.htm

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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From: "nm sc news list" <nmsclist@vpl.ca>
Reply-To: nmsclist@vpl.ca
To: nmscnews@vpl.ca
Subject: nmscnews: VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions..
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:32:01 -0700

 WELCOME to the "Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News," an occasional e-letter from the Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections Divisions of the Vancouver Public Library.

* * * *
Programs in June:

"Bookmaking Bootcamp" or, "How I Produce Entire Editions in Two Days"
Bonnie Thompson Norman, proprietor of The Windowpane Press, will discuss the books made in collaboration with participants in her classes. Her books are a passion as well as her profession. She has been proprietor of The Windowpane Press, a letterpress printing and book arts studio, for over twenty years. She works full-time as a hand bookbinder in a large commercial bindery in her home studio which has many things found in a traditional printshop and bindery... lots of equipment and paper (lots of paper). Many works produced at The Windowpane Press have been the result of collaboration between Ms. Norman and the participants in her classes.

Monday, June 20, 7:30 p.m.
Held in the Peter Kaye Room
Presented by the B.C. Book Arts Guild

*
Illustrated Magazines: Old and New
Join us for a two hour information session and hands-on practice searching for beautiful, extraordinary and rare illustrations in old and new magazines. Plus! - included is a tour of our Special Collections Department.
Wednesday, June 22, 2-4 p.m.
Held in the Level 5 training room.
Registration is required: call 604-331-3742

*
Wired Workshops, Wednesday June 1.

Join us and explore a few of the library's electronic resources in these free, hands-on workshops.

10:30 - 11:30 am Explore Your Roots with Ancestry Library Edition. UK and US census records plus birth, marriage and death records and much more. A favourite for genealogists!

12:00 - 1:00 pm Search the News with Canadian Newsstand. Find stories from the Vancouver Sun, Province, and Courier, plus the National Post and 100 other newspapers.

1:30 - 2:30 pm Get Business Savvy with Business Source Premier. From management trends to market research - articles from the Harvard Business Review, the Economist and thousands more.

3:00 - 4:00 pm Answer Your Health Questions with Health Source and Alt HealthWatch. Get the latest on mainstream, alternative and complementary medicine.

4:30 - 5:30 pm Get a Little of Everything with eLibrary Plus. You'll find magazine and newspaper articles, photos, maps - even TV transcripts.

* * * *
Library Square at 10: the world at your library!
May 24 to June 2, the Central Branch of the Vancouver Public Library celebrates its 10 year anniversary. Events are planned for each day of the 10 day celebration - check the website at www.vpl.ca - click on Library Square at 10 under "Spotlight", then select a button on the grey bar, such as Events by Day or Performers or Highlights.

* * * *
Special Collections Division Displays

VPL birthday display featuring photographs, books and other memorabilia related to the history of the Vancouver Public Library.

Examples of local fine press publishing, to honour the Wosk Foundation donation, show examples of work by Lucie Lambert, the Barbarian Press, Cottonwood Press, and Blackstone Press/Heavenly Monkey.

The history of the Canadian Pacific Railway in BC is showcased in a display and brings attention to the digitization project underway - more historic CPR photographs will be scanned and made available on the online Historical Photographs database:
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/photos/photoagree.html The launch of the CPR historical photographs web site is expected in July.

* * *
That is all for this issue of Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News.
If you have any ideas or comments for future issues, please send us an email to nmsclist@vpl.ca We welcome all your suggestions.

Vancouver Public Library
350 West Georgia Street
Vancouver BC V6G 1B6
(604)331-3603

To see our all of our current and upcoming programs go to: http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/nm/home.html#Programs
OR http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/home.html#Programs
To e-mail us a question: http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/qis/emailref/eRefService.html
To suggest a purchase: http://www.vpl.ca/online/PrintableSuggestedPurchase.html

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Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:00:14 -0700
From: d rogers <diane_rogers@shaw.ca>
Subject: Fw: British Great War Medal cards
To: Robert Daniel radaniel@dccnet.com

 Hi, Bob;

We had a note on the News page about the possible destruction of these British Great War Medal Index cards. I thought you might like to add some 'good news'. (The cards are being split up though---- women's cards are going to the Imperial War Museum. The Western Front Association may not be interested in 'everyone' who served, or perhaps the Imperial War Museum particularly asked for the women's cards.)

Diane R

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 Press Release:-

The Western Front Association http://www.westernfront.co.uk/aboutus/whatiswfa.php  is pleased to announce that following negotiations with the Lord Chancellor's Department, the National Archives, and the Ministry of Defence, we have been granted custodianship of the Great War Medal Index Cards.*

The Cards are now in the possession of the W.FA. and have been moved to a secure storage facility.

Due to the current condition of the cards and the filing cabinets, our next step is to provide new storage cabinets, and under the direction of archivists manage the cleaning of the archive.

To secure the long term future for the cards we will need to raise funds for the administration and long term care of them. Once the funds have been raised we will endeavour to digitally copy the reverse side of the cards that hold correspondence details-approximately 5% of the cards. We will also be seeking a permanent home for this valuable archive.

This is an exciting project for the W.F.A. in our 25thAnniversary year; we would ask people to bear with us as we work to secure the future of these historical and important documents.

Bruce Simpson Chairman, the Western Front Association

* The women's cards have been given to the Imperial War Museum.

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 The Western Front Association was formed with the aim of furthering interest in the period 1914-1918, to perpetuate the memory, courage and comradeship of all those who served their countries in France and Flanders and their own countries during The Great War. It does not seek to justify or glorify war. It is not a re-enactment society, nor is it commercially motivated. It is entirely non-political. The object of The Association is to educate the public in the history of The Great War with particular reference to the Western Front. Applications for membership are welcomed from anyone with a like mind.

 The WFA studies all aspects of the Great War from the major battles on the Western Front which include Mons, Ypres, the Marne, the Somme, Passchendaele, Arras, Amien, Le Cateau, the Aisne, Champagne, Neuve Chapelle, Loos, Cambrai, the Chemin des Dames, Messines, the Meuse and the Argonne. We also look at Gallipoli, Mesopotamia, Palestine, the Balkans and Salonkia and the Eastern Front battles such as Tannenburg, the Masurian Lakes and the Gorlice - Tarnow Offensive. In addition naval battles like Jutland, Coronel, the Heligoland Bite and the Falklands are covered, as is the war in the air looking at the Royal Flying Corps and German Luftwaffe and aircraft such as the Sopwith Camel. In addition we look and the Generals and Political Leaders, these include Franz Ferdinand, Haig, French, Joffre, Pershing, Jellicoe, Petain, Lloyd George, Hindenburg, Ludendorff and von Schlieffen, plus many other areas of the WW1 conflict, which can be refered to as WWI, or World War One. We also look at Cemeteries, Memorials, Trenches, Medals such as the Victoria Cross, Weapons and Trench Maps.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 not yet debated
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:16:00 -0700

 Greetings All.

Contrary to my earlier expectations, today's session in the House of Commons (Friday 20 May) did include two periods of debate on Government Orders.
Unfortunately the time allotted for both periods was taken up entirely with debate on Bill C-9. There was no debate today on Bill S-18 or any of the other Bills currently shown on the Projected Order of Business.

It would appear that on any given sitting day, appearance of a Bill on the Projected Order of Business is not a guarantee that it will be debated on that day. My assumption now is that once on the POB, a Bill should remain there until it has been dealt with. If the Bills on the POB are dealt with continuously, in the order in which they appear on the POB, it would appear that Second Reading debate of Bill S-18 is unlikely to begin until close to the time when Parliament would normally recess for the summer on 9 June 2005.

By my estimate the four government Bills currently shown on the POB before Bill S-18, if dealt with consecutively, will take up a minimum of 14 to 16 hours of debate. With Government Orders normally taking up two hours of debate per day, it would take 7 to 8 sitting days before they get to start debate of Bill S-18.

There are currently only nine sitting days left until the normal date that Parliament would recess for the summer. One media report has shown the last day of sitting as 23 June which would indicate that the session has been extended by ten days. However I have yet to see anything official indicating that such is the case.

I expect if I am incorrect in any of my assumptions here, that Jeff will likely correct me.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 reappears on POD
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:59:46 -0700

 Greetings All.

Subsequent to my earlier message, the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons now shows Bill S-18 on the agenda for tomorrow, Friday 20 May 2005. It appears under 'Government Orders', which are dealt with from 10:00 to 11:00 AM Eastern Time.

During most days of the week, 'Government Orders' normally have two sessions, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. On Fridays however, the House normally adjourns earlier than on other days to allow time for those MPs who must travel. The Projected Order of Business for Friday shows only the one morning session for 'Government Orders'.

There are four other government Bills listed for the same time period so it remains to be seen how much time will be allotted for Bill S-18.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census.
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:42:08 -0700

 Greetings All.

The votes on Bills C-43 and C-48 in the House of Commons have just concluded. The Conservatives voted in favour of the main Bill, C-43, along with the Liberals while the Bloc voted against it. Bill C-43 passed with no problem. On the second and perhaps more critical vote of Bill C-48, the Conservatives and Bloc Members voted against it while the Liberals and NDP voted in favour.

The result was a tie of 152 - 152 requiring the Speaker of the House to cast the tie-breaking vote. The result of that is that Bill C-48 passed and the government was not brought down. There will be no election called at this time.

This means Bill S-18 should once again appear on the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons. As I write this, the Projected Order of Business on the government website does not yet go past today.

One supporter of access has received a response from his MP indicating that S-18 is on the legislative calendar for 30 May 2005. Whether or not that is true, we will have to wait and see. According to the Calendar for the House of Commons, the House does not sit during the coming week. They are scheduled to resume sitting on Monday 30 May 2005, at which time there will be only nine sitting days left before the normal time of recess for the summer.

During the coming week we should continue to contact our MPs seeking passage of Bill S-18 before Parliament recesses for the summer. I for one would much prefer to spend my summer months researching the records of the 1911 National Census of Canada, than having to continue the fight to see them released.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Where is Bill S-18?
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:15:18 -0700

 Greetings All

With Belinda Stronach crossing the floor to the Liberals the chance of the Budget vote failing on Thursday is lessened, but a passing vote is by no means a certainty yet. The Government needs the support of at least one of two so far undeclared Independent MPs for the vote to pass. Because the vote has been declared one of 'confidence', if it fails an election will be called and Bill S-18 goes into the dumper.

If the vote passes, an election will be delayed and Bill S-18 should hopefully once again appear on the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons. Our major problem then returns once more to one of time.
According to the Parliamentary Calendar the House of Commons does not sit next week. They resume sitting on 30 May and continue for nine sitting days to the normal start of the summer recess on 9 June. There is a possibility that sitting can be extended for up to 10 days, but as yet there is no
indication that is likely to happen.

If the powers that be have not listened to our urging to see S-18 passed in a single day, and it follows the normal route, I see little chance that it will be passed before Parliament recesses for the summer. I would love to be proved wrong.

As I write this, a few government Bills have been added to Wednesday's Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons. Unfortunately Bill S-18 is not one of them.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 not on agenda
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:10:09 -0700

 Greetings All.

Even though Bill S-18 was on the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons this past Thursday and Friday it seems to have fallen off the edge of the world since then. It was not dealt with today. It is so far not on the agenda for either Tuesday or Wednesday which is as far as it is shown at the moment.

If the vote on the budget, scheduled for Thursday, does not pass, an election will be called and that will be the end of Bill S-18. Should the budget vote pass we can hope that Bill S-18 will once again appear on the Projected Order of Business. All we can do at the moment is wait and see what happens.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Info on ICs legal action
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 23:07:37 -0700

Greetings All.

The latest update to the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature, has just been loaded. Files relating to the legal actions of the Information Commissioner against Statistics Canada for refusal to provide access to Historic Census records are now online and accessible.
Please be advised that the large size of most of these files do not make them suitable for downloading on a dial-up connection.  Even with a high-speed connection some of these files will take several minutes to download.  The files are best downloaded and saved to your hard drive for later viewing.
Please read the information at the top of the page before trying to download any files for the first time.

Happy Hunting.
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - House adjourned again!
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:46:41 -0700

Greetings All.

Once again the House of Commons was adjourned this morning without having dealt with most items on the agenda, including Bill S-18.
The vote on the motion to adjourn was Yeas 138 to Nays 57.  It seems that fewer and fewer Members are attending the House for such votes.
As things stand at the moment, the reality that we have to face is that it is unlikely any further business of government, including Bill S-18, will conducted in the House unless, and until a vote on the government budget is held.  It has been made clear that such a vote would be one of confidence.
Should such a vote fail it would mean an election will be called and our efforts to regain the access to Historic Census records we are entitled to will have to be restarted for a FIFTH time.

Happy (?) Hunting

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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From: "Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul" <dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: new publication
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:38:00 +0100

Dear Chairman - Would you be kind enough to pass this onto the editor of your newsletter/bookstall manager/librarian

thanks

 Dear Editor

Please find enclosed a press release about a new publication from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. We wondered whether it would be possible to give it any coverage? Any help you are able to give, however small, would be greatly appreciated.
The FFHS are now stocking this item.

With best wishes
Rosemary Wenzerul, Publications Department, Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain,
Publications@jgsgb.org.uk

Press Release:- The Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain
Guides:- Guides List Order form May 2005.pdf

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 on agenda for Friday
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:00:47 -0700

Greetings All

 Bill S-18 appears once again on the Projected Order of Business for Friday 13, 2003. Hopefully the fact that it is Friday the Thirteenth will not be significant.
Cross your fingers -- but don't hold your breath.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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To: "Shirley" <salane@eastlink.ca>,"Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Information Commissioner's legal actions
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:38:03 -0700

Hi Shirley

 The legal action (Application for Review) of the Information Commissioner is proceeding on schedule at this time.  The time-table of events for that, as ordered by Madam Prothonotary Mireille Tabib on 2 March 2005 is as follows:

 *  The Respondent shall serve and file all affidavit evidence pursuant to Rule 307 no later than March 31, 2005.
 *  Subject to the Respondent's right of challenge, as set out in the preamble to the Order dated November 30, 2004, the Applicant may serve and file reply affidavits no later than April 15, 2005.
 *  Cross-examination on affidavits shall be held no later than May 27, 2005.
 *  The Applicant's record shall be served and filed no later than June 27, 2005.
 *  The Respondent's record shall be served and filed no later than July 27, 2005.
 *  The Applicant shall, no later than August 8, 2005, serve and file a requisition for hearing.

 In the above Order, the Applicant is the Information Commissioner of Canada, and the Respondent is the Minister of Industry.
It should be noted that there are actually three separate, but related Applications for Review by the Information Commissioner.  I have received copies of all documentation related to these Applications from the Office of the Information Commissioner.  It is my hope that I can shortly make them available on the Post 1901 Census Project website but there have been some problems on placing these files on the server.  Should these problems be resolved, and I am able to proceed with this project, there is one other problem.  All of these files are in PDF format and most are extremely large in size.  As such they are not suitable for downloading on a dial-up connection.  Even on a high-speed connection many of them would take several minutes to download.

 Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Permission to forward without notice is granted.

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From: "Shirley" <salane@eastlink.ca>
To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CCC] Post 1901 Census - House adjourned without debate of S-18

Gordon

 Like you I am terribly disappointed and have just fired off an e-mail to Stephen Harper, Peter MacKay and Gerald Keddy. I know it won't do any good but it made me feel better. Since it looks like our bill is going into the waste basket once again how do we stand on our court challenge and is it still proceeding?

 Shirley

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - House adjourned without debate of S-18
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:15:22 -0700

 Greetings All

 Even though Bill S-18 was on the agenda for consideration in the House of Commons today (Thursday), 55 minutes after the House resumed sitting MP Rob Nicholson made a motion to adjourn the House for today. The vote in the Commons, just concluded, was 152 in favour and 144 against continuing the Business of the the House, and of the Country.
Bill S-18 was not dealt with today, and as I write this the Projected Order of Business for tomorrow has not yet been posted.  It appears that regardless of what is posted for the agenda, it is unlikely that any business of the House will be allowed to proceed.
I am quite frankly greatly disappointed, and disgusted, (polite terms) with the games being played by our Parliamentary representatives, regardless of what Party they belong to.  They are acting like a bunch of kids playing in a sandlot game of rugby.  They are certainly not dealing with the will of myself, or of anyone else that I have discussed this issue with.
As the news media occasionally say - 'Stay tuned for further developments'

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: <mail@familylinknetwork.com>
To: <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: [Possibly Spam] Fw: DNA and Genealogy Online Expo
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 00:12:26 -0600
   Press Release    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,  FAMILY LINK NETWORK EXPO OPENS DNA & GENEALOGY ONLINE CONFERENCE

 (May 11, 2005) As the use of DNA in genealogy research continues to expand, the Family Link Network (www.familylinknetwork.com) is announcing the opening of registration for the first online conference on DNA's uses in genealogy research.
 The name of the online event is, "Family Link Expo 2, DNA and Genealogy, What You Need To Know About Genetic Genealogy" and runs from June 7 - July 7, 2005.
 The online Expo consists of six informative, yet easy to understand presentations that explain what DNA is, what types of DNA are available for research, and how to apply it to one's family history. Instructors include professional genealogist Karen Clifford and genetic and molecular genealogists from Relative Genetics, a DNA testing company.

 Admission to the Family Link Expo 2 is a low $29.95 and includes unlimited access 24 / 7 to the presentations in the convenience of your own home during the Expo as well as printable handouts for each one for future use.  Discounts are available for early registration before May 24 at www.familylinknetwork.com

 Co-Sponsors of the Expo are Relative Genetics, a DNA testing company owned by Sorenson Genomics, a company currently building the world's largest publicly available correlated genetic and genealogical database.  And by Genealogy Research Associates, Inc., a full service genealogy research company operated by highly acclaimed and well known professional genealogist Karen Clifford.

 DNA is becoming one of the most applied sciences to genealogy research", explains Kathie G. Knoll, product manager at Relative Genetics.  "Some people may think that DNA use is only for law enforcement or special agencies, but they should realize that it's a resource that anyone can use in their genealogy research", continues Knoll. These presentations, while easy to understand for the beginner, also provide a wealth of information for the experience genealogist and are applicable to everyone searching for their family history.

 For a complete list of the presentations and registration information, visit www.familylinknetwork.com

 Relative Genetics was founded to assist individuals with their family history pursuits.
Their organizational mission is to help others establish relationships and identity among individuals through comprehensive DNA testing, genetic interpretation, and genealogical analysis.
GRA Inc. is a  Full Service Genealogy Research Company. 
Services Include: Professional Research, Consultation, Record Lookups, Special Services, Publishing, Language Translation.
 About Family Link Network:-  The Family Link Network is a company that provides a combination of exciting genealogy products and services that assist you in successfully connecting to your family history. Connecting means going beyond names and statistics to an actual link between your family and your ancestor's achievements.  Beneficial and enriching information you will treasure!  So Get Linked. . .and find out what you've been missing!!!            

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 on Projected Order of Business
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:47:41 -0700

Greetings All.

Bill S-18 has finally appeared on the House of Commons Projected Order of Business for Thursday 12 May 2005.
Considering the current climate in the House of Commons it remains to be seen if it will actually be dealt with, or if the politicians have listened to our messages asking them to fast-track the Bill and pass Second and Third Readings in a single day.  We can only hope, and wait to see what happens.
Proceedings of the House of Commons are broadcast daily on CPAC.  On StarChoice CPAC is broadcast on channel 396.  It will appear on different cable channels depending on the area you are in.  For those interested in watching, proceedings begin at 10:00 AM Eastern Time.
 I will be one of those watching with great interest to see what transpires regarding Bill S-18.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Projected Order of Business
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:09:56 -0700

Greetings All

 On the government website the Projected Order of Business for the House of Commons normally shows at least part of the business expected to be dealt with for the remainder of the week.  This week however it seems that they are placing information on the website for only one day at a time.

 The schedule for today (Wednesday) shows several items of Government Business, but makes no mention of Bill S-18.  It is beginning to look less and less that Bill S-18 will be passed before the government is forced to call an election.  To say that I am NOT a 'happy camper' would be understating the situation.

I will be writing my MP today to advise that if an election is forced before Bill S-18 is passed I will be forced to give very serious consideration regarding who will receive my vote in a future election.

I encourage everyone to continue contacting their Member of Parliament to seek their support to 'fast-track' Bill S-18 by foregoing the Committee and Report stages, and to pass Second and Third readings in a single day.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:24:38 -0700
From: Maureen Hyde <tmhyde@shaw.ca>
Subject: BCGS re coming events
To: Robert Daniel <radaniel@dccnet.com>

Hi, Bob

 The following was passed on to me.  Thought you might like to post it.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Jennifer Lau, CCHS Co-ordinator, 778-892-5585
info@cchsbc.ca mailto.info@cchsbc.ca
Past ExplorAsians, Present Explorations: Chinese Canadian Genealogy
What:  Chinese Canadian Genealogy Workshop
When: Saturday, May 21, 2005, 9:30 am to 4:00 pm
Where:  Alma Van Dusen Room, Vancouver Public Library, Library Square
How to register:  604-331-3603  Space is limited to 30 seats.

 Explore your Canadian roots at the next Chinese Canadian Historical event.  Held at the Vancouver Public Library, this in-depth family history workshop will teach you the basic tools and techniques for researching your Canadian ancestors.  The day-long workshop will include a detailed look at various documentary sources, including the General Register of Chinese immigration, vital event records, census records, directories, and more.

 This workshop will be conducted in English and co-facilitated by Janet Tomkins, VPL and Eleanor Yuen, UBC.  Held in conjunction with the Explorasian Festival, CCHS is proud to co-sponsor this event with the Vancouver Library and the UBC Asian Library.

 The Canadian Chinese Historical Society of BC is a broadly based membership society with educational goals to bring out the untold history of ethnic Chinese within the history of British Columbia.  Through document preservation, research, family and oral history, and public education programs, CCHS was founded in October 2004 and delivers the Canadian Chinese experience through public lectures and workshops.  The 200+ CCHS members hail from all over the world, but are based primarily in British Columbia.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
References: <E1DU3JI-0006Dq-00@app2.nasc.inter.net>
Subject: Re: [CCC] Bill S-18 second reading proposal in House of Commons
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:45:55 -0700

Greetings All.

 My thanks to Leland for forwarding the Hansard extract of the House of Commons where Bill S-18 is at least mentioned as being considered.  I note however, on the Projected Order of Business for the House that has been posted this morning, that Bill S-18 does not appear for the first four days next week.  The only items posted so far for these days are Private Member Bills.  That could yet change and I will be checking daily for this.

 It is important that we continue to encourage House and Party leaders, and our own MPs, to fast-track Bill S-18 by foregoing the Committee and Report stages, and by having Second and Third Readings of the Bill in a single day.

 Remind them that there are currently 210 Members of Parliament that have publicly expressed support for access to Historic Census Records, including all House leaders and three of four Party leaders.  Bill S-18 is a non-partisan Bill, transcending Party lines, and when passed into law will end more than twenty years of contention over public access of Historic Census records.

 Happy Hunting.
 Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
 Permission to forward without notice is granted

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From: "Leland Harvie" <lharvie@ca.inter.net>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:56 AM
Subject: [CCC] Bill S-18 second reading proposal in House of Commons

38th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION
EDITED HANSARD . NUMBER 092

CONTENTS
Thursday, May 5, 2005

 Mr. Jay Hill (Prince George-Peace River, CPC): Mr. Speaker, I would be very interested in hearing, not only from the government House leader as to the agenda that he has planned for the remainder of this week and on into the next week, but specifically when he intends to give any of the opposition members an opposition supply day; when he intends to bring in his budget, not just to bring it in and debate it ad nauseam, but to actually have the courage to put it to a vote to check on the confidence of the House; and, if he intends to call an election, if he could enlighten us as to when he intends to do that.

 Hon. Tony Valeri (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, for the rest of today, tomorrow and early next week the order of business will be the consideration of the Senate amendments to Bill C-12, the quarantine legislation; followed by third readings of Bill C-9 respecting economic development in Quebec; Bill C-23, the human resources bill; Bill C-22, the social development bill; and Bill C-26, the border services bill.

 We would then consider second reading of Bill C-45, the veterans bill; and then Bill S-18, the census bill.

 Tomorrow the government will introduce a companion bill to the budget implementation bill. We hope to debate second reading of this bill by Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.

We will then also resume consideration of Bill C-43 which is the budget implementation bill.

To assist members in their planning as well, I wish to inform the House that on the evening of May 18 the House will go into a committee of the whole on the citizenship and immigration estimates, and on the evening of May 31 on the social development estimates.

My hon. colleague across the way asked about opposition days. As the rules provide and call for, six opposition days are required before the end of June. Certainly our focus will be on moving the budget implementation bill forward. I would expect that we would do that.

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Scots and all that
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:50:35 -0700

Greetings to all. A message about Genealogy and reminders about Mods, Concerts, plus__  Regards, the other Ron

1.The Kelowna and District Genealogy Society (Kelowna, BC, Canada) is hosting a genealogy seminar on Sept. 30, Oct. 1, and Oct. 2, 2005. 
There will be nine speakers. Of interest to anyone researching the Western Isle of Scotland, Bill Lawson, the foremost genealogist for the Western Isles, will be presenting information relevant to those with roots in the Western Isles. For further information, and registration forms,   click on: www.rootsweb.com/~bckdgs/seminar2005.htm

 2. May 10th -14th Mod Vancouver -a competitive festival of Scottish Gaelic music, language & culture -- music, workshops, whiskey tasting, beginners Harp, song (solo & choral), literature, drama, dancing. Nightly concerts, featuring Mod gold medal winners. All Welcome - Good entertainment even if you aren’t a two-talker
CONTACTS:
Murdo ph 604 224 4173
Dolly ph 604 572 4068
For information re schedule and other details go to :
www.modvancouver.com

 3.The Robert Memorial Pipe Bands’ Concert at the Massey Theatre, 735 – 8th Avenue, New Westminster; Ceilidh in the Massey Theatre cafeteria
DATE:  Saturday, May 14, 2005
TIME:  Concert 5 PM to 7PM,
Ceilidh starts at 8 PM
TICKETS:  Concert $20.00
Ceilidh $25.00
Combined ticket  for both events $40.00.
CONTACTS:
Sharon at 604-461-1212
Dorothy at 604-463-3421, or, Online at www.sfupipeband.com

 4. Curious about the ancient Celtic festival of Beltane (May Day)? Web site  www.ccsna.org has an interesting article on the subject.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Cc: <laurie_fagan@cbc.ca>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Ontario Today item on Bill S-18 postponed

Greetings All.

 After posting yesterday about the Ontario Today radio broadcast I slept in this morning and tuned into the program 20 minutes after it started. Thinking that I had missed her item re: Bill S-18, I contacted Laurie Fagan to ask if it would be placed in their audio archives.

Laurie responded that her item had been pre-empted by other news items and was not on the program today.  She indicated that her producer likes the piece and it will be broadcast tomorrow (Friday) between noon and one (Eastern time).  For those who miss it, she indicated her item would be placed in the daily archives.

'Ontario Today' is a news and phone-in program running from Noon to 2:00 PM Ontario time.  It is broadcast in Ottawa on FM 91.5, and a number of other CBC stations in Ontario.  It is accessible on the Internet from their website at http://www.cbc.ca/ontariotoday/ There is a link there for their audio feed.  Click on 'Listen Live'.

 For those having comments regarding her article, Laurie states "We do encourage talk-back after an item is aired and I invite anyone who listens to call with thoughts and opinions."  The number to call for that is 1-888-591-4111.  You can also send an email to ontariotoday@cbc.ca or through a form on their 'Contact Us' webpage.

 Happy Hunting.
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Permission to forward without notice is granted

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Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 06:24:04 -0700
From: A Forsyth <annchar@shaw.ca>
Subject: Penticton Genealogy Club Newsletter (Sogs) - Grapevines
See their sample Newsletter for May (MS Word document ) Newsletter - May.doc

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From: "nm sc news list" <nmsclist@vpl.ca>
Reply-To: nmsclist@vpl.ca
To: nmscnews@vpl.ca
Subject: [Spam] nmscnews: VPL News from the Newspapers & Magazines / Special Collections Divisions.

 WELCOME to the "Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News," an occasional e-letter from the Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections Divisions of the Vancouver Public Library.

Updates & goings on ...

Library Square at 10: the world at your library!

May 24 to June 2, the Central Branch of the Vancouver Public Library celebrates its 10 year anniversary. Events are planned for each day of the 10 day celebration. Check the website at www.vpl.ca  Click on "Library Square at 10" under "Spotlight" for details.
The opening ceremonies are Tuesday, May 24, at 12 noon in the promenade.

The Special Collections Division received a generous donation! Dr. Yosef Wosk donated $10,000 to Special Collections to purchase fine press books published by local presses and created by local artisans. This will enable the division to develop quite a collection. We're looking forward to seeing the new acquisitions in future displays and programs.

 PressDisplay has added some CanWest publications to its title list.  There are now 9 Canadian newspapers available, with the following new titles joining the Globe & Mail, the National Post, and the Toronto Star: The Vancouver Sun, The Province, Calgary Herald, Edmonton Journal, Ottawa Citizen, and The Gazette (Montreal).

PressDisplay offers full-image digital versions of current newspapers from over 55 countries and 30 languages.  You can access today's newspapers and back issues for up to 45 days.

Access PressDisplay by clicking on Electronic Resources from the library home page, at www.vpl.ca
Scroll down through the alphabetical list to find PressDisplay (if you're doing this from home you'll need your library card & pin number).

Special Collections Division Display

VPL birthday display featuring photographs, books and other memorabilia related to the history of VPL.  We will also have  two fanciful, wonderful cakes created by VPL staff member, Shalyn Shuya. These paper-based sculptural creations are the centre pieces of the VPL birthday displays.

 Conservation of rare books info on the Internet:

 For those of you interested in rare books and their conservation, the Special Collections Division maintains a list of web site links for your convenience -  shortcuts to the best web sites in conservation and rare books are all here: http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/hotsites.html#conservation

 You can access these and other Special Collections web links by going to http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/ and clicking on "Links" on the red bar.

Upcoming in June:

 Wired Workshops, Wednesday June 1. Join us and explore a few of the library's electronic resources in these free, hands-on workshops.

10:30 - 11:30 am    Explore Your Roots with Ancestry Library Edition. UK and US census records plus birth, marriage and death records and much more. A favourite for genealogists!
12:00 - 1:00 pm    Search the News with Canadian Newsstand. Find stories from the Vancouver Sun, Province, and Courier, plus the National Post and 100 other newspapers.
1:30 - 2:30 pm    Get Business Savvy with Business Source Premier. From management trends to market research  articles from the Harvard Business Review, the Economist and thousands more.
3:00 - 4:00 pm    Answer Your Health Questions with Health Source and Alt HealthWatch. Get the latest on mainstream, alternative and complementary medicine.
4:30 - 5:30 pm    Get a Little of Everything with eLibrary Plus. You'll find magazine and newspaper articles, photos, maps, even TV transcripts.
All ages are welcome. Participants must have basic computer and internet skills.
Sessions are drop-in. No registration required.
Location: Level 5 Computer Training Room, Central Branch, Vancouver Public Library

 That is all for this issue of Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News.

If you have any ideas or comments for future issues, please send us an email to nmsclist@vpl.ca We welcome all your suggestions.

 Vancouver Public Library
350 West Georgia Street
Vancouver BC V6G 1B6
(604)331-3603

To see our all of our current and upcoming programs go to: http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/nm/home.html#Programs
OR
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/home.html#Programs

 To e-mail us a question: http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/qis/emailref/eRefService.html
To suggest a purchase: http://www.vpl.ca/online/PrintableSuggestedPurchase.html

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- New column posted.
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:07:50 -0700

 Greetings All

 The latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census issue is now posted and is online at  http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce115.htm
 Topics include: Progress of Bill S-18, including charts showing how each Senator voted on Third Reading of the Bill; Your assistance requested - again!; Letter from Ontario Genealogy Society; and LDS supports Bill S-18.

 Happy Hunting
 Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Permission to forward without notice is granted

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Highland Games again
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:50:02 -0700

Please replace the schedule sent out yesterday with the following.
There are some additions, a change of venue, and, a correction. These are marked with a *  regards, the other Ron

Highland Games 2005

 British Columbia

May 21 - Comox Valley Highland Games, Lewis Park, 489 Old island Highway, Courtenay, www.cvhg.org
May 22 – Victoria Highland Games, Bullen Park, Esquimalt, www.victoriahighlandgames.com
*June 11 – Sons of Scotland, South Delta Senior Secondary School Oval 750 - 53rd Street, Delta B.C. www.eteamz.com/sonsofscotland NOTE:  this is a change of venue (from Abbotsford to South Delta)
June 18 – BC & Yukon Legion Highland Gathering, Sooke, www.highlandgathering.ca
*June 25 – (Saturday) BC United Scottish Highland Games, Coquitlam Town Centre Stadium, www.bchighlandgames.com
July 2 – Penticton Highland Games, Kings Park, Penticton, www.pentictonhighlandgames.com
July 3 – 8 – Celtfest 2005 Summer School & Concert Series, Tigh-na-Mara Seaside Resort
*July 3 – 8 -  Piping Hot Summer Drummer, Silver Mountain Resort, near Vernon, (world’s largest piping & drumming school) www.phsd.net

Alberta

June 18 – Highland Gathering in the Park, Sherwood Park contact cprowse@prowsechowne.com
June 25 – Red Deer Highland Games http://reddeerhighlandgames.ca
June 26 – Edmonton Scottish Society Highland Games, Edmonton, contact russell.s@telus.net
August 27 – High River Highland Games, High River www.highriverhighlandgames.com
September 3 -  Calgary Highland Games, Calgary www.calgaryhighlandgames.org

Saskatchewan

*May 20 – Prairie Piping Invitational, Ramada Hotel, Regina at 7:00 PM
*May 21 -  Moose Jaw Highland Festival, Crescent Park. Moose Jaw
*May 22 -  Regina Highland Games, Campbell Collegiate, 102 Massey Road.

Regina

NOTE:  all three can be accessed through http://www.reginahighlandgames.org

*July 10 –15 – Sound Advice, Saskatchewan Pipe Band Association Summer School, Regina, contact iainmacd@sasktel.net

Washington

June 4 & 5 – Bellingham Highland Games, Hovander Homestead Park, Bellingham, www.bellinghamhighland.org
July 10 – Skagit Valley Highland Games, Edgewater Park, Mount Vernon, www.celticarts.org
July 30 & 31 – Pacific NW Highland Games, King County Fairgrounds, Enumclaw, www.sshga.org

Oregon

July 16 – Portland Highland Games, Portland, www.phga.org
 For those in a travel mode, two very large games, one in Canada and the other in the USA
July 7 – 10 – Grandfather Mountain Highland Games, Linville North Carolina, www.gmhg.org
July 29 & 30 -  Glengarry Highland Games, Maxville, Ontario, www.glengarryhighlandgames.com

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census -- Bill S-18 in House of Commons
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:05:50 -0700

Greetings All.

 It would appear that even though I missed seeing it in the Order Paper for today (Thursday), Bill S-18 must already have received First Reading in the House of Commons.
The Order Paper for tomorrow (Friday 22 April 2005), under 'Orders of the Day' and 'Government Bills (Senate)' reads as follows:

 "S-18 --- April 21, 2005 --- The Minister of Industry -- Second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry, Natural Resources, Science and Techmology of Bill S-18, An Act to amend the Statistics Act."

 Unlike debates in the Senate, debates in the House of Commons are televised live on CPAC so we can see what happens, as it happens. Hopefully during Second Reading debate tomorrow, one of the MPs speaking to the Bill will make a motion to proceed directly to Third Reading without the necessity of referring it to Committee.

 CPAC on StarChoice Satellite is on Channel 396.   It will be on different channels for Bell ExpressVue Satellite and the various cable outlets across the country.  As usual, Hansard extracts of the debates will be placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website.

 Please keep your messages going to MPs encouraging them to fast-track Bill S-18 through the House of Commons.

 It has been my practice to respond individually to those sending copies of their letters to thank them for their support.  The volume of messages received as a result of Jeff Paul's request to send emails to the Party Leaders, seeking passage of Bill S-18 in a single day, makes it impossible to send individual messages of thanks.  For those who have sent us copies of their emails, please accept this as our thanks to you for your support.

 Happy Hunting.

 Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: WillieCross@aol.com
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:10:40 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Family History : New Book on a Renfrewshire Family over the last 200 years

 I am pleased to enclose details of a new book published this month. see notice

 Enquries very welcome.

 William Cross

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - BILL S-18 PASSES AT SENATE THIRD READING!!!!
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:28:27 -0700

Greetings All.

I forward FYI the following message from Jeff Paul.  It needs no further explanation from me.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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 ----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:30 PM
Subject: [CCC] BILL S-18 PASSES AT THIRD READING!!!!

Dear Friends:

 I am very pleased to inform all of you that by a vote of 51-16, the Senate has passed bill S-18 at third reading.  It is now headed to the House of Commons where it must pass 3 readings before it becomes law.
As you all know, it is a minority parliament in Ottawa these days, and as a result, there could be an election at any time.  This bill will die if an election is called, and we will have to start again.  We need to let Members of the House of Commons know that we want this bill passed before the next election.  We also need to urge all parties to get together to pass this bill in one day.

So I'd like each and every one of you to write an email AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and no later than Friday afternoon to all of the following people:

Tony Valeri - Government House Leader - Valeri.T@parl.gc.ca
David Emerson - Minister of Industry - Emerson.D@parl.gc.ca
Jay Hill - Opposition House Leader (Conservative) - Hill.J@parl.gc.ca
Stephen Harper - Leader of Opposition (Conservative) - Harper.S@parl.gc.ca
Libbie Davies - NDP House Leader - Davies.L@parl.gc.ca
Jack Layton - NDP Leader - Layton.J@parl.gc.ca
Michel Gauthier - Bloc Quebecios House Leader - Gauthier.M@parl.gc.ca
Gilles Duceppe - Bloc Quebecios Leader - Duceppe.G@parl.gc.ca

You should write one email to all of them collectively.  You should write a brief note in your own words.

Every email must request that all parties get together to agree to pass S-18 in one day.

Some of the points you may want to make in the email would include:

* 209 current MPs are on public record as supporting the release of historic census records
* Why the release of the records is important to you
* The Information Commissioner, Privacy Commissioner, Chief Statistician, National Archivist, Canada Census Campaign, and Canadian Historical Association all support the bill
* Acknowledge that this is a tough time for the house but that this is a non partisan bill
* State that you do not take any side on whether or not there should be an election, your only concern is getting this bill through
* ALL 4 HOUSE LEADERS HAVE GOLD TICKS
* Jack Layton, Stephen Harper and David Emerson ALL HAVE GOLD TICKS
* Statistics Canada needs a decision on this bill right away so final preparations can be made on the 2006 Census

If you are concerned about writing to a Bloc Quebecois member in English, you may start your email by stating "Je suis désolé, mais je n'écrit pas en Français.  J'espérais que vous preniez le temps de considerer cette lettre."

 PLEASE do not forward this email directly to parliamentarians.  It is a million times more effective when it comes in your own words.
If you have EVER written a letter in support of this campaign, I ask that you take this one additional step for us.  THIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST IMPORTANT EMAIL REQUEST WE'VE EVER MADE.  We need all hands on deck for this one.
PLEASE WRITE IMMEDIATELY AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR EMAIL IS SENT OUT BY FRIDAY IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.  The House is not sitting next week and we need to keep up the momentum.
Thank you so much for all of your help, and we hope that we can count on you one more time.

 Yours truly,
Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph:  613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Senate debate of Bill S-18 concludes - Vote today
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:48:52 -0700

Greetings All.

 Final debate of Bill S-18 in the Senate took place yesterday (Tuesday) with Senator Lynch-Staunton (as usual) speaking against the Bill.  As seems to be the case regardless of who is speaking to the Bill, the Honourable Senator Comeau got his two-bits in again.
Senator Lowell Murray, with whom I have been at odds almost from the beginning of our campaign to regain access to Historic Census records, spoke in support of Bill S-18, indicating his intention to vote in favour of it.  I am convinced of the sincerity of his support at this time, and for that I have finally awarded him a Gold Tick on the Senators Scoreboard.
I will be writing to him to express my personal thanks for his support at this time.
Unlike previous reports where I have elaborated on the debate, I will simply suggest  you read yesterdays session for yourselves.  As I write this the Hansard extract of the debate has been posted to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature.  Follow the link for 'Progress of Bill S-18'.

Bill S-18 passed in the Senate with a verbal vote of Yeas/Nays, however a recorded vote was called for.  That vote takes place today (Wednesday) at 2:45 PM Ottawa time.  The Senators Scoreboard will be updated to reflect the position taken by those voting at this time.

Following a positive vote for Third Reading of Bill S-18, it will be referred to the House of Commons for processing there.  Contact your MP to encourage speedy passage of S-18 through the House.  Hopefully we will see it fast-tracked there so that we might have access to the 1911 Census records before Parliament recesses for the summer.

 Happy Hunting.

 Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census --  Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:40:56 -0700

Greetings All.

 I am very pleased to be able to forward the following message from Jeff Paul, Policy Advisor to Senator Lorna Milne.  This is indeed very welcome news.
Because the vote did not take place at the time of debate I expect that it will be a recorded vote and I will update the Senators Scoreboard to reflect the votes cast by the Senators.  Senator Murray and I have had our differences over the past several years but if his speech and vote reflect what Jeff says, not only will I give him his Gold Tick, but I will be more than happy to write to him, thanking him personally for his support.

While not immediately clear from his opening paragraph it appears the vote will be taken tomorrow (Wednesday).  I would suggest anyone able to, to take advantage of Jeff's suggestion to attend the visitor's gallery for the vote and, if it does not break any protocol, to express our appreciation for seeing the Bill finally pass from the Senate.  I only wish that I could be there myself.

Final debate of Bill S-18 in the Senate will be posted on the Post 1901 Census Project website as soon after I can access the Hansard transcript on Wednesday morning.

 Happy Hunting.

 Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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 ----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: [CCC] Senate S-18 Vote Scheduled

On behalf of Senator Milne I am very pleased to let you all know that debate at 3rd reading of S-18 concluded in the Senate today.  A vote has been scheduled for the Senate Chamber at 2:45pm Ottawa time (11:45am for Gordon).  This will be the final vote on S-18 before it goes on to the House of Commons.
Kudos should go out to Senator Lowell Murray.  Years ago Senator Murray fought to keep the historic census private, but today he announced in a very classy speech that he will be supporting the government's initiative.  I hope that Gordon will have his big gold checkmark up before the vote tomorrow.
Anyone who is interested in being in the gallery for the vote should contact me right away either by email or at the numbers below.  We can meet at the East Bock at 2:00pm SHARP.  We will proceed to the Senate Chamber and watch the vote from there.  You will also get a taste of Question Period and some Senate debate.
Gordon and Muriel, would you please pass this information on to all of your lists as soon as possible.

Yours truly,

 Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph:  613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Letter to Industry Minister
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:49:33 -0700

FYI
Gordon

===========================

18 April 2005
The Honourable David L. Emerson
Minister of Industry
5th Floor, West Tower
C.D. Howe Building
235 Queen Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0H5

Mr. Minister;

It has recently come to my attention that Statistics Canada, for whom you hold responsibility, has finalized and received approval for questions to be included on Schedules for the 2006 Census of Canada, to be effective 16 May 2006.
Included in the questions for the 2006 Census is the following:

The following question is for all persons who usually live here including those less than 15 years old. If you are answering on behalf of other people, please consult each person.

53. The Statistics Act guarantees the confidentiality of your census information. Only if you mark "YES" to this question will your personal information be made public, 92 years after the 2006 Census. If you mark "NO" or leave the answer blank, your personal information will never be made publicly available.
Does this person agree to make his/her 2006 Census information available for public release in 2098 (92 years after the census)?

Yes

No

With respect Mr. Minister, I wish to advise that unless, and until Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act, or some other enabling legislation, is passed by Parliament and receives Royal Assent, it is our belief that inclusion of this question for the 2006 Census of Canada would be unlawful.

Inclusion of this question would contravene clauses of the Privacy Act, and Privacy Regulations that clearly state personal information obtained through the taking of a Census may be disclosed to any person or body for research or statistical purposes, provided that 92 years have elapsed following the Census containing the information. ( R.S., 1985, c. 1 (3rd Supp), s. 12; 2004, c. 11, s. 52. )

There is no provision in existing applicable legislation for seeking the permission of respondents of Census for the disclosure of information provided after 92 years.
Further to this, during Senate Committee consideration of Bill S-18 (and indeed during similar consideration of the earlier, now defunct government Bill, S-13) Chief Statistician Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi made certain commitments, to wit, that Statistics Canada would undertake to explain the benefits of allowing their information to be made available after 92 years, and to encourage them to do so.

On 27 February 2003, when speaking to Bill S-13, Dr. Fellegi,  made the following statement to the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology: (emphasis mine) 
 "I made a private undertaking with the national archivist which I am glad to make public as part of the record. I undertook to work with the archivist in the publicity program regarding future censuses. Because there is a massive publicity campaign that surrounds the census, it is an opportunity to encourage Canadians to provide their permission. Because this is a public meeting I am hereby committing my successors to do the same."

On 24 February 2005 when speaking to Bill S-18, Dr. Fellegi made the following statement to the same Senate Committee: (emphasis mine)  

  "... I have committed previously and I still am committed to work with all stakeholders to give effect and encourage Canadians to declare themselves in favour of sharing their census records, 92 years after the event."

 Part Two of the Census form -- "Reasons why the questions are asked", states in reference to the question quoted above:

 ACCESS TO PERSONAL INFORMATION 92 YEARS AFTER THE CENSUS

  Question 53 ensures that each person is given the opportunity to make an informed decision about what happens to their personal census information. Only if a respondent answers Yes to this question, will their 2006 Census information be released in 92 years. Consent to the release of census information allows future generations to better understand Canadian society in 2006.

When answering this question, please consult with each person in the household to obtain their views before responding. If their views are not known, the question for that person should be left unanswered. Parents and legal guardians should answer on behalf of children. In the event that a person wishes to change their response or to provide a response where the question was left unanswered, write to the Coordinator, Access to Information and Privacy, Statistics Canada, 120 Parkdale Ave. Ottawa, ON, K1A 0T6.

If this is the extent to which the government and Dr. Fellegi are prepared "... to give effect and encourage Canadians to declare themselves in favour of sharing their census records, 92 years after the event", it falls far short of our expectations from the statements made by Dr. Fellegi. We would like to see more positive encouragement on the Census form, and on accompanying literature, for respondents to answer YES to this question.

Public access to Historic Census records is an issue that has been ongoing since at least the mid 1970s.  It should have been resolved with the passage, in 1980 - 1983, of the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations, that make specific provision for that access 92 years after collection.  The Chief Statistician of Canada however, decided that he is under no compulsion to return control of the records in question to the National Archivist for subsequent public access in accordance with the aforementioned legislation.  We disagree with the Chief Statistician on this but are not prepared to argue the point at this time.
Mr. Minister, for the past seven years genealogists and historians have waged a campaign to regain the public access to Historic Census records that existing legislation states we are currently entitled to. We have committed to continue until we have successfully achieved that access. Our efforts have not been necessary because of restrictive legislation, but because of a policy initiated by, and under the control of, the Chief Statistician.

During the past seven years this issue has been subject of several Motions and Private Member Bills, both in the Senate and the House of Commons, and two Government Bills introduced in the Senate.  We are certain that all parties concerned -- Senators, Members of Parliament, Cabinet Ministers, the Chief Statistician and the National Librarian and Archivist, as well as genealogists and historians, want to see this issue resolved so that we can all get on with other things.
Government Bill S-18 is not viewed as being perfect but as likely the best we are likely to see at this time.  Leaders of the Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association and the Association of Canadian Archivists have all agreed to support Bill S-18 without seeking amendment to it.  We wish to see Bill S-18 passed before Parliament recesses for the Summer.  We would prefer to spend our Summer researching the now long overdue records of the 1911 Census of Canada, instead of still fighting to see them released.

We ask that you encourage speedy passage of Bill S-18 by whatever means possible -- not only to give the long overdue access sought for 1911 and subsequent Census records, but to provide legitimacy to the 'informed consent' question on the 2006 Census forms.

Respectfully,

Gordon A. Watts     
Co-chair, Canada Census Committee
gordon_watts@telus.net
Tel:  604-942-6889
Fax: 604-942-6843
Cc:
Paul Martin, Prime Minister
Lorna Milne, Senator
Ian E. Wilson, National Librarian and Archivist
Ivan P. Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - no S-18 debate Thursday
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:36:36 -0700

Greetings All.

 No debate on Third Reading of Bill S-18 took place in the Senate chambers Thursday so it remains adjourned in the name of Senator Lynch-Staunton.  While S-18 was the first item on the Orders Paper for Government Business, when it was called it was postponed 'until the next sitting', which is now Tuesday 19 April.  No reason is given in the Journals for postponements.  At least two other Bills received Third Reading and passed but it would appear that the Bill that concerns us does not rate the priority with some Senators than do other Bills.

Further delays in seeing Bill S-18 receive Third Reading and referral to the House of Commons are increasingly frustrating.  We wish that the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton, when indicating his desire to speak against Bill S-18, would do so at the time rather than adjourning the debate until another day.  It is likely coincidence, but it seems that each time debate is adjourned in the name of the good Senator there follows at least one sitting day in which the debate is not continued.

(Please do not send any messages to the Honourable Senator suggesting delays in the debate have been deliberate.  The last time that happened it caused no end of problems for us.  Contact with any Senators should be kept to encouraging speedy passage of Bill S-18 rather than berating anyone for delays in doing so.)

It is looking less and less as if Bill S-18 will be passed before Parliament recesses for the Summer, or before the current minority government may be forced to call an election because of a non-confidence vote.  We can still hope however.  If we can get Third Reading finished in the Senate and see it sent to the House of Commons it is possible that it could be fast-tracked there.

We believe that Statistics Canada is as anxious as we are to see Bill S-18 passed.  On their Test Census conducted 11 May 2004 they included the 'informed consent' clause.  They must have time to print the schedules for the 2006 Census schedules.  It is likely they are just waiting for S-18 to pass before the go-ahead is given for printing.  If an 'informed consent' provision is included on the 2006 Census schedules without Bill S-18 (or another Bill giving authorization) being passed, it is our view that such inclusion would be unlawful.  We have advised Industry Minister Emerson of this view, but of course we have had no response from him.

As of Tuesday 19 April there will be only 28 sitting days in the House of Commons before Parliament recesses for the summer.

 Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Debate on S-18 resumed
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:19:52 -0700

Greetings All.

Senate Third Reading debate on Bill S-18 -- An act to amend the Statistics Act resumed on Wednesday 13 April 2005 with Senator Wilfred P. Moore (Liberal - Nova Scotia) speaking against the access to Historic Census records sought by genealogists and historians.

Since March of 2002, when he expressed support for Senator Milne's Private Senator Bill S-12, Senator Moore has been shown on our Scoreboard having a Gold Tick of Support.  No more!  It would appear the good Senator has done a complete about-face regarding public access to Historic Census records.  His comments during his speech leave little doubt as to his opposition and as such his Gold Tick of Support has been removed and the Scoreboard now shows him having a Red X of Opposition.
As have other Senators (and some MPs) who have spoken against the access we seek to regain, he made frequent references to 'promises' that have been proven never to have existed.  Like others have done, he quotes two narrow clauses of the 1918 Statistics Act while ignoring all pertinent clauses of Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census from 1901 to at least 1946 (all having the Force of Law) referring to records of Census having value as historical documents, and being stored in the 'Archives of the Dominion' for research in the future.  He ignores the fact that clauses in the Access to Information and Privacy Acts, and Privacy Regulations make provision, clearly and unambiguously, for access by any person or body for purposes of research 92 years after the Census is collected.
As we have come to expect, the Honourable Senator Comeau got his two-bits worth in once more.  He makes reference to individuals using Census to obtain clues relating to health concerns and them expresses concern that insurance companies could use such information to limit what kind of insurance coverage could be obtained.  The fact is that Census does not give specific information relating to health concerns, but only gives vague clues on where such information might be found.
For such information to be of use to insurance, or any other companies, they would be compelled to compile a multi-generation genealogy for each person seeking to purchase a policy.  The likelihood of any company doing this costly and time-consuming exercise is extremely remote.  We view the expressed concern of Senator Comeau in this regard simply as scare-mongering.
The debate was adjourned in the name of Senator Lynch-Staunton who has already voiced objections to the access we seek in his lengthy speech of 22 March 2005.  I find the adjournment in the name of Senator Lynch-Staunton interesting as I was under the impression (subject of course to correction) that Rules of the Senate [i.e. 37(1)] prohibited any Senator from speaking more than once during a particular debate.

We think it unlikely that any Senator opposing the access we seek can come up with any argument that has not already been stated.  We call upon the Senate to stop further delays.  Pass Third Reading of Bill S-18 NOW and get it referred to the House of Commons for debate in that place.

As usual, the extract from Hansard for Wednesdays debate has been placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature.  Follow the link for 'Progress of Bill S-18'.
There are now 40 normal sitting days before Parliament recesses for the Summer.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Jean List" <jean_list@telus.net>
To: "Robert Daniel" <radaniel@dccnet.com>
Subject: Fw: War memories
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:58:18 -0700
Hi Bob,

 A friend sent this to me and thought it could go on our site.
 quote:-
 
 We have received the information below from the BBC regarding a new television programme 'special'. "We'll Meet Again will be a 1 hour pre-recorded studio special for BBC 1 to commemorate the 60th Anniversary of V.E. Day.  It is our intention to reunite old comrades, friends, sweethearts and war babies who have carried the memory of each other ever since the war. The programme will tell wartime stories and then bring the episodes up-to-date with surprise reunions.
We'll Meet Again is an opportunity for the BBC to bridge the gap between history and entertainment - and to tie in with a whole season of VE Day themed exhibitions, national celebrations, parades and local street parties making it a huge event with a lasting impact.

We are currently looking for people who lived through WWII, have a story that they want to share and would like to be reunited with someone they knew during this time; old war-time pals, war babies, sweethearts, family members etc. We will try to trace and reunite some of these people as part of the VE Day celebrations.  The stories and contacts do not need to be VE Day specific; they can just be WWII memories".

You'll find all the information on the website www.bbc.co.uk/ww2

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - No debate on S-18
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:44:44 -0700

Greetings All.

The Senate of Canada resumed sitting on Tuesday 12 April 2005.
Contrary to our hopes and expectations they did not resume Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 at this time.  According to the daily Journal, Bill S-18 was called and postponed 'until the next sitting', which would be today (Wednesday).
According to the Order Paper for today, Bill S-18 is the first item under Orders of the Day.  As items remain on the Order Paper until they have been completed and dealt with there is no guarantee that Third Reading debate of S-18 will be resumed today, even though we hope it will be.

In the overall scheme of things in Parliament the Census issue may seem to some to be a minor irritant.  We hope that at least some of our Honourable Senators realize the over-riding importance it is to a great many people.  We hope there will be no further delays in completing Third Reading and referral of Bill S-18 to the House of Commons.  Each day Bill S-18 remains in the Senate is one less of the rapidly dwindling days available for debate in the House of Commons.  At this time there remains only 41 normal sitting days before Parliament recesses for the Summer.  Time is running out.

Stay tuned for further updates.

 Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Betty Allen" <allenbb@lynx.bc.ca>
To: "Bob Daniel" <radaniel@dccnet.com>
Subject: Fw: 1817-1950 THE SCOTSMAN DIGITAL ARCHIVE available April 6th free
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:19:03 -0700

Bob, I thought this might interest some of our members - I received it from Oxford Co. Ont branch OGS that I belong to.

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 From: "Ancestral Manor" <info@AncestralManor.com>
To: <Irish-Canadian-L@rootsweb.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:20 PM
 Subject: [Irish-Canadian] 1817-1950 THE SCOTSMAN DIGITAL ARCHIVE

Hello,

See Promotion for 1 day of free access to the Edinburgh Scotsman  archives on April 6 attached below.

The Edinburgh Scotsman newspapers are extemely dense type and oversized dailies with much regional and world news. My own original 1880s issues run 8-16 pages and measure about 26x24 inches, although the page size often varies by an inch or so from day to day. My 1930s issues contain extraordinary photographs.
Click on  "search" tab for advanced features by issue date ranges, sort order or other features -like excluding advertisements. Occaisionally produces a system error on searches, so just retry. There may be other problems with heavy usage on the free day, but you can experiment with search types and results before the free day. See archive.scotsman.com

Issues contain

Shipping news from around the world, so even if you aren't searching Scots, you could find a reference for a ship "heard from" or sighted by another landing in Edinburgh.
Passenger schedules from a search on "Allan Line" shows other steamship lines as well just from 1864-1870 shows:  Allan Line from Glasgow to the  US and Canada, Allan Line from Leith to Norway & Sweden, Montreal Ocean Steamship Company from Glasgow to Quebec & Boston & New York,  Liverpool Quebec & Montreal Steamship Company, Anchor Line of Transatlantic Steampacket from Glasgow & Londonderry to Halifax & St John & New York, Liverpool & Northern Brazil Steamers including Lisbon, Clyde Shipping Co,  Steamers from Glasgow to Cork & Limerick & Waterford, Leith & Hull & Hamburg Steampackets - also to Denmark, Inman Line Liverpool New York & Philadelphia, P Henderson & Co Packets from Clyde to New Zealand, as well as individual ships from Leith to Philadelphia, Leith to Kirkwall, Terragona & Barcelona & Leith, emigration to Otago New Zealand, Edinburgh to London, Glasgow & the Highlands, etc.
Good resource for gold rush, coal mining and golf history - includes US and elsewhere.
Also all war events and other major news items reported in Scotland is quite extensive.
The phrase "scottish clans" shows dinners and association events.
Great resource!

Sharon Sergeant
Ancestralmanor.com
premium@scotsman.com wrote: scotsman.com

FREE ACCESS TO THE SCOTSMAN DIGITAL ARCHIVE
The Scotsman masthead 1817
FREE ON TARTAN DAY APRIL 6TH 2005 - THE SCOTSMAN DIGITAL ARCHIVE <http://archive.scotsman.com>
 "...search every word on every page in every edition of the Scotsman, right back to the first one in 1817. It's a wonderful window on the history of Edinburgh, of Scotland and of the world." - George MacKenzie, Keeper of the Records of Scotland

In recognition of the links between Scotland and North America and in celebration of Tartan Day 2005 <http://archive.scotsman.com/TartanWeek>, The Scotsman - Scotland's leading quality newspaper - offers an unprecedented opportunity to delve back through Scottish and world history right back to the paper's first issue in 1817.

The Scotsman Digital Archive will be available free for 24 hours to all residents of the United States and Canada who register at archive.scotsman.com <http://archive.scotsman.com> on 6th of April starting from midnight Eastern Standard Time.

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - New Column posted.......
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:10:00 -0700

Greetings All.

My latest Column on Post 1901 Census issues has now been posted online. Topics of this issue include Progress of Bill S-18 ... Motion to amend Bill S-18 defeated... Debate adjourned to 12 April 2005.... What now?...
letter by Ethel (Moffet) Fulford.
The column is accessible at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce114.htm

Happy Hunting.
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Senator Scoreboard updated
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:27:37 -0700

Greetings All

The Senator's Scoreboard on the Post 1901 Census Project website has been updated with information available to date.

Nine new Senators appointed 24 March 2005 have been added.  Even with these new Senators added there are still seven vacancies to fill -- one each for New Brunswick, PEI, Manitoba and British Columbia, and three for Quebec.

There have been a number of changes made regarding positions of Senators.  On 23 March, 19 Senators voted YES to a proposed amendment to Bill S-18 that would have had the effect of closing all public access to records of Census between 1918 and 2005.  Each of those Senators, including nine who had previously been awarded Gold Ticks of Support, have now been awarded a Red X of Opposition.  Assuming that there will be a recorded vote on Third Reading in the Senate of Bill S-18 we will be watching closely to see how they vote at that time.

Please note that a recorded vote is not a certainty.  Votes are normally done on a YEA/NAY or show of hands basis, and a recorded vote is done only if requested by the Senators.
Current standings on the Senator's Scoreboard are as follows:
36 FOR, 20 AGAINST, 18 NON-COMMITTAL and 24 who have not bothered to respond to our requests for their position.

The Senate resumes sitting on 12 April 2005.  We hope that Bill S-18 will complete Third Reading and be  referred to the House of Commons on that day, or shortly after.

Happy Hunting
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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From: "Roger Gadley" <rgadley@pacbell.net>
To: <radaniel@dccnet.com>
Subject: Suggestion
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:41:51 -0800

Hi, I have a web site that has information about British Columbia pioneers.

Content: James and Catherine Duhig emigrated from Ireland to Lowell Massachusetts sometime in the early 1820s. Their sons, John Duhig and Dennis Dexter Duhig came to the Quesnel/Barkerville area of British Columbia for the gold rush in the early 1860s. This site features the decendants of Dennis Duhig.

Title: Darlene Gadley's Duhig Family Genealogy Page
Address:   <http://www.gadley.com/duhig/> http://www.gadley.com/duhig/
Contact: Darlene Gadley
Email:  <mailto:rgadley@pacbell.net> rgadley@pacbell.net

 Thank you, Darlene Gadley

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate adjourned to 12 April 2005
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:05:24 -0800

Greetings All.

Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate yesterday (Wednesday) with Senator Madeleine Plamondon speaking against the access we seek.  As have others who oppose that access, she made references to 'promises' being broken and related this to a lack of trust the people have in politicians.
The debate yesterday was more lengthy than those previously reported on.
Some of this debate consisted of heckling on the part of some Senators that oppose access.  I will not go into it here in any length but urge all to read the debate for themselves.  For the first time some Senators, other than our champion Senator Milne, had supportive comments to make.  As usual, the extracted Hansard debate has been placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature.

Follow the link for "Progress of Bill S-18"

For her speech opposing Bill S-18 Senator Plamondon will earn a Red X of Opposition on our Senators Scoreboard.  Because they voted in favour of Senator Comeau's amendment that would have closed access to all Censuses from 1918 to 2005, a number of other Senators have earned their Red X of Opposition as well.  They will appear as soon as I am able to make the changes to our website.

Fortunately, the amendment of Senator Comeau was defeated so that what remains to be considered is the original Bill as presented by the government.
We had hoped that Bill S-18 would have finished Third Reading and be referred to the House of Commons before the Senate recessed for the Easter break.  We had hopes this would happen today (Thursday 24 March). Instead of that however, at the end of sitting yesterday, the Senate voted to adjourn until Tuesday 12 April 2005, at 2:00 PM.
Even should all of those Senators who still wish to speak to Bill S-18 be able to do so, and it passed Third Reading and was referred to the House of Commons on 12 April, at that time there will be only 32 House sitting days left before Parliament recesses for the Summer.  It is looking less and less like we will see Bill S-18 proceed in the House through First Reading, Second Reading, Committee and Report stages, Third Reading and Royal Assent before the Summer break.

Happy (?) Hunting.
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 debate continues
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:30:24 -0800

Greetings All.

Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate on Tuesday 22 March with Senator John Lynch-Staunton leading the charge against passage of the Bill.
As he had done before for the Privacy Commissioner and the Chief Statistician, he now berated Justice Canada for having produced a legal opinion that differed from earlier opinions in that it found no intention that Census records were intended to remain confidential forever, and no evidence that any 'promise' had been made that would give such an impression.  He stated that "Justice has a bad habit of tailoring opinions to suit its client."

It does not appear to matter to the Honourable Senator that earlier opinions were based on a very narrow view of one specific clause in Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census (having the Force of Law), whereas the opinion of Ann Chaplin in August 2000 considered ALL pertinent clauses (also having the Force of Law) in those Instructions, as well as ALL legislation having a bearing on the access issue.

The Honourable Senator was prolific in quoting clauses of various statutes, Instructions, and Census forms which, while they gave assurances of confidentiality in contemporary terms, nowhere was there anything that indicated that such confidentiality was intended to last FOREVER.

The Honourable Senator Comeau added some further comments as well.

During the course of the past seven years, whenever any Senator or MP has spoken against the access we seek, almost without exception they have voiced those objections as if genealogists and historians were seeking information from current Censuses, rather than from those of 92 or more years ago.  While much of what they say may have some validity in terms of access to current Census records, to apply those terms to records almost a century old is, to say the least, misleading.

The full text of yesterday's (Tuesday) debate has been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature.  Follow the link "Progress of Bill S-18".

Happy Hunting
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - 3rd reading debate of S-18
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800

Greetings All.

 Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 resumed in the Senate on Monday 21 March 2005.

Senator Lorna Milne spoke against the amendment proposed earlier by Senator Comeau.  She urged members of the Senate to defeat the amendment and to pass the Bill.
Senator Lynch-Staunton asked if Senator Milne would "allow a question or two".  The Honourable Senator couched his comments in the form of questions.  It appeared however, that his main purpose was to object to the commitment of Statistics Canada to participate with the Libarary and Archives of Canada at the time of Census, to educate and encourage Canadians to allow access to their Census records, 92 years in the future, to preserve Canada's history for future generations.

The Honourable Senator stated his intention to speak to this "in due course" but subsequently moved adjournment of the debate, after which Senator Jack Austin (Leader of the Government in the Senate) asked when he intended to "make his contribution?".  The response was "As soon as I can, honourable senators".  We cannot help but wonder, if the good Senator had something further to "contribute" why did he not do so at that time, rather than necessitate further debate on another day.

We hope that the Honourable Senator made his "contribution" today (Tuesday), however we will not know that until tomorrow morning when the online Hansard is accessible.  We had hoped that Bill S-18 would have received Third Reading (without amendment) and be referred to the House of Commons by this time.  We remain hopeful that this will happen before the Senate recesses for Easter this Thursday.

The full text of Monday's debate in the Senate, in both official languages, has been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature.  Follow the link for "Progress of Bill S-18".

 Happy Hunting
Gordon A. Watts  gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais  http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Scottish Centre news
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:04:05 -0800
Greetings, some reminders and news re upcoming local events. Regards, the other Ron.

1. The Vancouver Gaelic  Mod (May  10-14; website www.modvancouver.com/) will be preceded by  a Pre-Mod concert  presented by the Vancouver Gaelic Choir. The choir and  a supporting  cast will entertain you.
WHERE: Hebridean Room, main floor, Scottish Cultural Centre, 8886
Hudson Street  at  73rd Avenue.
WHEN: Saturday April 2nd. at 8:00 PM
Cost: $10.00
CONTACT: 604-536-1367
PS Did you know that The Lothian Gaelic Choir, Scotland, will be participating in the Vancouver Mod this year?

2. April 6th is Tartan Day. Wear a bit of tartan or a sprig of heather to proclaim you are a Scot or a Scot for a day. At the invitation of the organizer, Centre Coordinator Harry McGrath is soon off to New York to participate in the annual  Tartan Day Parade. This parade is growing by leaps and bounds each year.

3. The Sound of Scotland, an outstanding Scottish concert featuring Paul Anderson, Scotland's renowned fiddle champion, and George Donald of "Scotland the What?" fame
WHERE: Mount Seymour United Church, Parkgate, North Vancouver, B.C.
WHEN: Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 7:30 pm
COST:  $15.00 each (limited number of tickets available)
CONTACTS:  604 - 929 – 1802, or,  604 - 922 - 5209

4. The Vancouver Fiddle Orchestra presents an afternoon concert and ceilidh dance.
FEATURING: the orchestra with guests Pianist Alasdair Taylor , Vocalist Derek Mowat, Dancer Gail Urquhart
WHERE: Cates Hill Chapel, Bowen Island
WHEN: Sunday, April 17 at 2:30 PM
COST: $10.00
CONTACTS: 604-947-2440, or, lbmcarter@shaw.ca

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From: "Tay Valley FHS" <tvfhs@tayvalleyfhs.org.uk>
To: <queries@anesfhs.org.uk>
Subject: Tay Valley Family History Society.
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:26:49 -0000

Tay Valley Family History Society. 

This year TVFHS is celebrating its' 25th Anniversary, and as part of the celebrations, will be holding a Family History Fair. The Society would appreciate if you would include in your forthcoming  Journal/Newsletter publications, an announcement regarding this Fair.

Details:

Tay Valley Family History, Dundee, is holding a Family History Fair in celebration of their 25th Anniversary. This will be held in Trinity Parish Church Hall, Crescent Street, Dundee, Saturday 11th June 2005, 10a.m. to 4p.m., admission free.

Thank you in advance for any publicity you can give this event and look forward to welcoming your members.

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Tay Valley Family History Society
179-181 Princes Street, Dundee DD4 6DQ, Scotland
Phone 01382 461845  Intl. (+441382 461845)
Fax 01382 455532  Intl. (+441382 455532)
http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk
tvfhs@tayvalleyfhs.org.uk
Promoting the study of family history in Dundee, Angus, Fife, Kinross-shire & Perthshire

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From: "Ted Rosvall" <ted@genealogi.se>
To: <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: Swedgentour 2005
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:16:45 +0100

Hello!

I am TED ROSVALL, president of the Federation of Swedish Genealogical Societies - an umbrella organisation of more than 150 genealogical societies all over Sweden, with in turn around 60.000 active members.

In 2001 a group from the federation planned to attend the FGS Conference in Davenport, IA. Unfortunately we had chosen September 11th as our day of departure, which meant that we did not get any further than Paris, after which we had to return to Sweden. The following year, we did attend the 2002 FGS conference in Orange, California, where we had a Swedish booth, with our Books, CDs and Internet Resources. Thanks to a multitude of databases and to a network of Swedish genealogist and archivists, we were in many cases able to give immediate help to the visitors of Swedish descent that came to our booth. Before and after that event, we gave a number of Workshops and lectures in places like Kingsburg, CA and Salt Lake City, UT.

This year, the FGS conference happens to take place in Salt Lake City, the capital of world wide genealogy, and we plan to be there. On September 5th and 6th we will give talks and perform workshops at the Family History Library, and on September 8th through 10th we will participate with booth activities at the FGS Conference.

After the week in Salt Lake City we would very much like to visit some other part of North America where the Swedes settled. One such place, where we have never been before, is the Pacific Northwest. We feel that there should be a great interest from the Americans and Canadians of Swedish descent in that area, to meet our group, to see our multitude of databases, and perhaps receive a helping hand in finding their ancestors and relatives in Sweden.

We would be prepared for both workshops and classes from Sunday September 11th to Saturday September 17th.
Among the CD resources that we intend to demonstrate are:

The SWEDISH CENSUS 1890 (in English)
The SWEDISH CENSUS 1970
The SWEDISH CENSUS 1980
The SWEDISH DEATH INDEX 1947-2003  (new edition - with special version in English)
The EMIBAS  - a database of 1 million+ emigrants from Sweden to the US and Canada, informatyion gathered from the Swedish Church records. (In English as well)
+ several regional vital records indices.

We will also demonstrated GENLINE - digital Swedish church records on the Internet and the many databases on Internet, including the huge DISBYT with millions of searchable ancestors in Sweden and give free advise and genealogical information to anyone that has a Swede in their family tree...
If you are interested in a visit from this Swedish group of 6 renowned genealogists in September, please let us hear from you as soon as possible.
Best wishes from Sweden
TED ROSVALL
ted@genealogi.se
Do visit our website as www.genealogi.se and www.dis.se

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - New column posted......
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:40:17 -0800

Greetings All.

FYI. My latest column on the Post 1901 Census campaign has now been posted online at
http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce113.htm

Headline subjects include: Bill S-18 proceeding through Senate; Time is getting short;
More records in danger of destruction.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:17:27 -0800
From: d rogers <diane_rogers@shaw.ca>
Subject: BCGS Links
To:
Cc:  
Here is a link to the brand-new today on-line version of an index to the "Missing [Irish] Friends" section of the Boston Pilot newspaper.
 Could we add this to the BCGS links page, please?  http://infowanted.bc.edu/

From October 1831 through October 1921, the Boston Pilot newspaper printed a “Missing Friends” column with advertisements from people looking for “lost” friends and relatives who had emigrated from Ireland to the United States. This extraordinary collection of more than 31,438 records is available here as a searchable online database, which contains a text record for each ad that appeared in the Pilot.

Best wishes,

Diane R

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See our website http://www.members.shaw.ca/whnbc/
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:11:12 -0800
From: d rogers <diane_rogers@shaw.ca>
Subject: BCGS e-mail/website postings
To: Robert Daniel bcgs@bcgs.ca

Some members might be interested in this...Calgary isn't THAT far away.
Posted on the Genealib e-mail list.

Diane R

SNIP<

Dear All, I would just like to announce the dates and locations of the Ulster Historical Foundation’s Genealogical workshop and Seminar tour of the USA.
If any member or group are particularly interested in Irish or Scots- Irish ancestors this is for you!!!
If you would like any further information, feel free to ask.

Marie Heading
Librarian
Ulster Historical Foundation

Programme for Ulster Historical Foundation annual lecture tour of USA 14 May to 04 June 2005

 Friday May 13: Arrive in New York
 Saturday May 14: Fairfield Fréamh Éireann Genealogy Group, Connecticut (full day)
 Sunday May 15: Lancaster County Historical Society, Pennsylvania (afternoon)
 Monday May 16: Dunbar Library, Charleston, West Virginia (full day)
 Tuesday May 17: Kentucky Historical Society, Frankfort, Kentucky (full day)
 Saturday May 21: Irish Genealogical Research Society, Minneapolis, (full day)
 Tuesday May 24: Alberta Family Histories Society, Calgary, Alberta (evening)
 Saturday May 28: Eastern Washington Genealogical Society, Spokane (full day)
 Sunday May 29: Boise, Idaho (afternoon)
 Monday May 30: LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City (afternoon)
 Tuesday May 31: W.I.S.E. Denver Colorado (afternoon)
 Friday June 03: Scottish Family History Symposium, Arlington (Dallas FTW), Texas (full day)
 Saturday June 04: Irish Cultural Center, Phoenix, Arizona (full day)
 Sunday June 05: Return to Northern Ireland

Fintan Mullan, Executive Director, Ulster Historical Foundation

Balmoral Buildings
12 College Square East
Belfast BT1 6DD
Tel: +44 (0)28 9033 2288
Fax: +44 (0)28 9023 9885
Web: www.ancestryireland.com
Charity No. XN48460
>SNIP

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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:58:36 -0800
To: radaniel@dccnet.com,penelope_christensen@telus.ca,eunice@dccnet.com
From: Ed Goldberg <egoli@telus.net>
Subject: Upcoming Genealogy Meeting and Lecture

Hi Robert, Penelope and Eunice,
I am vice-president of the Jewish Genealogical Institute of B.C. and our president - Catherine Youngren - suggested that I e-mail you. Our Tuesday, April 5th 2005 Meeting will feature Stephen Morse, designer and architect of Genealogy-Related Research Tools, as the guest speaker.Stephen Morse's "One-Step" website started out as an aid for finding passengers in the Ellis Island database. From there it expanded to include finding aids for the 1930 Census. Over the years it has evolved and today includes over 40 web-based tools, ranging from genealogical searches to astronomical calculations. Stephen will give us his Deep Linking talk. It's not technical (despite it's title) and it will give us an insight as to what sorts of genealogical searches are possible. These tools have greatly enhanced the value of these resources to genealogists. Stephen's web pages and programs have helped and encouraged countless researchers.These tools are available as a public service. He does not receive any revenue for them. Today, his searching aids and websites attract attention from genealogists worldwide. I would like to know if I would be allowed to send out an e-mailing to all your members telling them about this meeting.
Members of our society can attend for free but non-members would have a $5 charge to offset some of the expenses in bring Stephen to Vancouver.

Regards,

Ed Goldberg
Vancouver

P.S. Stephen's webpage is at http://www.stephenmorse.org/

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "V & A Taylor" To: <CHESHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:16 PM
> Subject: WW1 medal records - under threat of being destroyed?
>>
>> This appeared earlier on the Warwick list and is forwarded in it's  entirety. I thought it was important enough to be copied (with  permission ) to this list.
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I just picked up a copy of a magazine and read the editor's column  with disbelief. I hope Hugh will please not unsub me for this <grin>  but it will affect everyone now and in future who is undertaking  research into family members who were involved with WW1 -  Warwickshire included.
>>
>> Start of quote:
>> As we go to press, it has come to my attention that in April the MOD  intends to destroy some 6 million records of medals issued to WW1  personnel. I think you will agree that we cannot let them do so.
>>
>> Our military expert Paul Reed has been looking into the matter and it  appears that the private facility used by the MOD to hold the records  at Hayes wants to relocate and charge the MOD for moving the cards.
>> The MOD's response is to get rid of the 140 filing cabinets that  contain the 4-6 cards. The National Archives doesn't want to take on  the cards because it has already microfiched them and the microfiche  has been digitally scanned (see  www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk).
>>
>> This isn't good enough. This is the only complete and untouched  record of First World War soldiers left. Other service records were  burned during WW2. Only the fronts of the cards have been scanned and  we believe that written on the back of many of these cards is the  address that the medals were sent to. Often, it isn't possible to  determine whether the record of the medals issued relates to your  ancestor or another person without checking this address.
>>
>> First, the cards need to be preserved. They then need to be scanned  properly, front and back, and re-indexed. If the National Archives  won't step in, perhaps someone else will. The Imperial War Museum?  The Veteran's Association?
>>
>> The MOD claims its holds copyright on the cards and that it can do what it wishes with them. I'd argue that these cards are part of the nation's heritage. They are public records, and I'd remind the MOD  that the descendants of WW1 soldiers pay their taxes. The cards  remind us of the enormous sacrifice and loss incurred by men and  women in this country during WW1, and of their bravery in adversity.
>> They enable the children and grandchildren of those who died, and  those who survived, to find out some of the lost details of their  forebears.
>>
>> To save the cards we must take action. We're instituting a campaign  to urge the Minister of Defence, Geoff Hoon, and the Director of the  National Archives, Sarah Tyacke, to prevent the destruction of these  records straight away. Address your letter to us and we'll pass it  on to these authorities: Rt Hon Geoff Hoon & Sarah Tyacke
>> Save the Medal Index Cards
>> c/o Your Family Tree
>> 30 Monmouth Street
>> Bath BA1 2BW
>> Alternatively, send an email headed 'Save the Medal Index Cards' to us at <yfted@futurenet.co.uk>. Do it now - the records are due to be destroyed in April.
>>
>> Garrick Webster,
>> Editor, Your Family Tree"
>>
>> End of quote
>>
>> I apologise for typos in the above. As we know now that the 1911  census is in one almighty mess with the enumerator's books lost and  the household schedules badly damaged, the thought of yet another  valuable - priceless - resource being deliberately destroyed is  beyond belief. Such destruction will prevent those following in our  footsteps in family history research in generations to come from  achieving their goals.
>>
>> If you wish to post this to other lists, please feel free to use the  above.
>>
>> Please visit our memorabilia & genealogy sites at:
>> http://209.157.71.50/memorabilia
>> http://209.157.71.50/irlamschools
>> http://209.157.71.50/arstallgenealogy
>> http://209.157.71.50/hankinsongenealogy
>>

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: SFU's Centre for Scottish Studies
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:25:12 -0800


Greetings, this is a rather long report. It tells the story of recent progress under Harry McGrath in reaching out to local, national and international audiences. Harry has earned a salute from us all. Regards, the other Ron

Centre for Scottish Studies, September 2004 – March 2005.

Oral History Project Interviews.

The following people were interviewed recently in the Centre’s oral history project, “Scottish Voices from the West: The Story of the Scots in Modern British Columbia.”

Alma Lee, Artistic Director, Vancouver International Writers Festival.
Glen Clark, Senior Executive Pattison Group of Companies and Former Premier, Province of British Columbia.
Terry Lee, Pipe Major, Simon Fraser University Pipe Band.
Murdo MacIver, Retired Captain, Vancouver Fire Boat and Gaelic speaker.
Donald Sinclair, Founding Member, Vancouver Burns Club.
Ian Ross, Professor Emeritus UBC, leading authority on Adam Smith.
James Russell, Professor Emeritus UBC, Classical Studies scholar and archaeologist.
Miriam MacDougall, Political Fundraiser.
Dorothy Brown, Curator, British Columbia Golf Museum.
James Bain, Chief, Sons of Scotland.
Mary Wattum, Scottish Country Dancing Pioneer in British Columbia.
Cilla Bachop, Plant Manager, Blanchette Press and on the original student editing board of the Peak SFU.
Strachan Birney, Senior Banking Executive.
Donald MacKay, Senior Executive, Empire Shipping Company.
Marjorie MacLean, Principal, Vancouver Oral Centre and Former Artistic Director, Vancouver Children’s Festival.
May Duncan, St. Andrew’s and Caledonian Society of Vancouver.

Upcoming Interviews

Iona Campagnolo, Lieutenant Governor, Province of British Columbia (March 23).
Larry Campbell, Mayor of Vancouver (to be rescheduled).
Mary Morrison, Gaelic Society of British Columbia (March 10).
Pipe Major John Mager, Piper and Chauffeur for last six Lieutenant-Governors of British Columbia. (March 24).

Archive Project.

Valuable material continues to be donated to the Centre as a result of this project. Material in need of archiving is donated to the SFU Archives and other material is deposited in the Centre’s office that now operates as a resource centre for anyone interested in the history of the Scots in British Columbia.
We have recently been given access to the memoirs of Rev. Donald Gillies who was born and raised on the Island of St. Kilda. St. Kilda is a world heritage site and this year is the 75th anniversary of the clearing of the last people from that archipelago. As a result, these memoirs are of considerable interest in Scotland and are attracting attention to our Centre and to our archive project.
I was recently interviewed by the Scotsman newspaper on the work of the Centre in general and the archive project and the memoirs in particular. This project has been supported by the British Consulate-General in Vancouver.

Talks Given by Coordinator:

American-Scottish Leadership Conference, Chicago;
Burns Club of Vancouver;
Sons of Scotland;
Baden Powell Guild of Canada;
West Coast of America Islay Gathering;
Scottish Heritage Day, Lord Byng Elementary School;
Saltire Society St. Andrew’s Ball;
University Women’s Centre;
Vancouver Rowing Club;
Vancouver Yacht Club Reception;
Elder College, Delta Seniors Programme;
Various Guest Lectures, SFU History Department.

Lectures Sponsored by the Centre for Scottish Studies:

Professor T.C. Smout
, Historiographer Royal for Scotland, “Four Centuries of Anglo-Scottish Union,” and “Making Scotland a Little Bit Like Canada: Forestry in Britain in the Twentieth Century.”

Professor Ina Ferris, University of Ottawa, “Adapting the Past: Walter Scott’s Bannatyne Club and the Problem of the Antiquarian Document.”

Professor Lawrence Keppie, University of Glasgow, “The Romans in Scotland: Their Far Frontier.”

Newspaper and Web Articles.

Articles about the Centre for Scottish Studies have appeared in the following newspapers and websites in the last six months:
The Vancouver Sun;
The Scotsman;
Vuelo In-Flight Magazine Mexicana Airlines;
Tri-City News;
Burnaby Now;
Coquitlam Now;
SFU News;
Celtic Connection;
The Westender;
Friends of Scotland website;
Gung Haggis Fat Choy website;

Other Media.

I have been interviewed about Robert Burns on the Fanny Keifer Show, Shaw Cable, and on Talk Radio Vancouver.
I recently appeared on CTV Newsworld on the subject of “The Real Macbeth” and I am now the national contact on Scottish issues for that station.

The Centre as a Resource:

The Centre for Scottish Studies now has contacts and partners in all of the major Scottish universities and several universities in the United States, Australia and New Zealand.
I handle anywhere from five to twenty enquiries each day from people interested in the Scots in the West of Canada.
I am currently working with two members of the Scottish Parliament who are conducting a study on the Scottish Diaspora.
I get numerous enquiries from Scotland concerning family members who immigrated to Vancouver.

Miscellaneous:

The Centre recently opened a display area in the SFU Library dedicated to advertising its work.

Centre for Scottish Studies September 2005 -

These are some of the activities the Centre is already involved in that relate to SFU’s 40th anniversary celebrations:

40th Anniversary Committee. I am serving on a committee to look at ways of incorporating Scottish themes into next year’s celebrations.
I have also met with Angus Macpherson, Chairman of the B.C. Highland Games and I am actively involved in a number of plans including co-operating with the games in a two day celebration in June and setting up a Scottish Enlightenment speakers series.

Tartan Day.

The Bain family who run Tartan Day in New York has invited me to attend this year’s festivities. I will use this opportunity to look at what we can do by way of a similar celebration at SFU next year.
I have had an e-mail from the Scottish Parliament’s first secretary in Washington to inform me that First Minister Jack McConnell would like to visit Vancouver “sometime next year,” and I believe we could connect this visit to SFU’s 40th.

James Buchan.
I am working with Alma Lee, Director of the Vancouver Book Festival, to bring over James Buchan, grandson of John Buchan, Scottish novelist and Governor General of Canada. James Buchan would present a lecture on “Edinburgh in the Enlightenment” under the joint auspices of the Centre for Scottish Studies and the Book Festival.

Carl MacDougall.
The Centre plans to bring over Scottish author and television personality Carl MacDougall. MacDougall was the presenter of a very successful BBC television series called “Writing Scotland.” He has e-mailed me to say he would like to come to Vancouver in September 2005.

Oral History Project.
The project calls for interviews to continue until December 2005. UBC Press has expressed interest in a book based on the interviews once they are completed.
We are planning to interview all lower mainland mayors with Scottish heritage – Larry Campbell has already agreed to an interview and Derek Corrigan expressed interest when he was on the campus for Burns Day.
Sometime after the interviews are over in December, the Centre will host a reception for everyone who has been interviewed and connect that reception to the 40th anniversary.

Long Distance Education Courses
.
I spoke to the American Scottish Leadership Conference in Chicago on this subject and was assured that there is considerable interest in the United States for long distance education courses on Scottish subjects.
The Centre receives a number of enquiries from Canadians on the same subject. I hope that we can produce at least one course in the following year and use it to test the market.

Archive Project.
Materials in the archive project will continue to accumulate. I hope that the Centre will eventually find an appropriate facility to house them and make them available to a wider public.

ST Andrew’s Ball.
The Saltire Society has agreed to run their annual ball in November as a co-celebration of their 25th and SFU’s 40th anniversaries. All profits are donated to the Centre for Scottish Studies.

Harry McGrath
March 12, 2005

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - debate of S-18 continues
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:41:34 -0800

Greetings All.

Third Reading debate of Bill S-18 continued in the Senate yesterday (Wednesday, 9 March 2005), with Senator Gerald Comeau speaking, as usual, in opposition to the Bill. He expressed his disappointment that the sponsor of the bill (Senator Milne - although he did not mention her by name) had not yet spoken to the Bill in Third Reading. This even though, according to the Hansard transcripts for 8 March 2005 , debate was adjourned in his name immediately the motion to read the bill the third time was made by Senator Rompkey.

As usual, the Honourable Senator Comeau fixated upon 'breaking of ... promises' that neither he, nor anyone else, have been able to prove ever existed. He berated the Privacy Commissioner and the Chief Statistician for their positions of support for Bill S-18.

As he had done during the Committee stage, he proposed an amendment to the Bill that would allow unrestricted access to the 1911 and 1916 Censuses, but would prevent any public access at all to records of Census from 1918 to 2005. His motion this time was seconded by Senator Ethel M. Cochrane. Her support of this restrictive amendment has earned her a Red X of opposition on the Senators Scoreboard.

Extracted Hansard transcripts for March 7, 8 and 9 March, relating to Bill S-18, have been added to the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Follow the links for Bill S-18. These extracts are in both official languages.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Third Reading of S-18 moved
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 09:40:16 -0800

Greetings All.

FYI

On Tuesday 8 March 2005 Third Reading of Bill S-18 in the Senate was
moved by Senator Bill Rompkey. Debate on the motion however was
immediately adjourned without any discussion taking place. Hopefully we
will see the debate continued today (Wednesday).

Happy Hunting.

Gordon

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 reported back to Senate
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:03:16 -0800


Greetings All.

FYI. On Monday 7 March 2004 Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act, was reported back to the Senate by the Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology. It was reported without amendment.

"On motion of Senator Keon, [the] bill [was] placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading at the next sitting of the Senate."

While the motion reads that the debate on third reading will proceed "at the next sitting of the Senate", which would be today, such is not necessarily the case. This is standard wording when the Speaker asks when bills will be read next and does not necessarily mean that it will, in fact, be debated the next time the Senate sits.

Hansard transcripts are not available online until the day after the event so it will be tommorrow (Wednesday) before I can find out if Third Reading of S-18 actually begins today.

Senator Keon has not given us a definitive response to the question of his support, or otherwise, of the access we seek. Presumably his position will become clear when he speaks to the Bill. We hope that during Third Reading we will hear from some of those Senators supportive of access rather than only those who, up to date, have opposed it (with the notable exception of Senator Lorna Milne).

According to the Parliamentary Calendar, Parliament sits this week and does not sit next week. It sits again from 21 to 24 March and recesses once more until 4 April. It sits until 20 May when it breaks again for a week. It sits again from 30 May to 9 June which is the normal last day before the Summer recess. There may be a possible extension of up to ten days, to 23 June, before the Summer recess.

In any case, at this moment there are 46 sitting days left, with a possible extension of up to 10 days, for an absolute maximum of 56 sitting days before Parliament recesses for the Summer. All of this is, of course, subject to change at the whim of the government and we should not count on any more than the 46 days. Not much time to see Bill S-18 to be completed before Summer.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - new column posted.....
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:57:13 -0800


Greetings All.

FYI the latest of my columns on the Post 1901 Census issue has been posted and is now online. This issue's topics include: Bill S-18 passed by Senate Committee; What's next?; Submissions to Committee; Census petitions; Contacting Members of Parliament; Letters; BMDs threaten Identity theft? - Apparently not!

The complete article may be accessed at

http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce112.htm

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - where to send petitions
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:09:48 -0800


Greetings All.

Since my recent posting requesting that completed Post 1901 Census petitions be sent to us now, I have had a number of requests to advise the addresses to send them to.

Ignoring the fact that the addresses to send petitions to are shown on the same page of the Post 1901 Census Project website that the petitions are downloaded from, I will give the addresses again here.

Petitions for the House of Commons should be sent to myself at

Gordon A. Watts
1455 Delia Drive
Port Coquitlam, BC
V3C 2V9

Petitions for the Senate, and Non-Resident Petitions would normally be sent to

Muriel M. Davidson
25 Crestview Avenue
Brampton, Ontario
L6W 2R8

However, due to time constraints at this time they would be better sent directly to Senator Lorna Milne at

The Hon. Lorna Milne, Senator
Senate of Canada
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada K1A 0A4

Petitions sent to Senator Milne that are mailed within Canada do not require any postage. Any mailed from outside of Canada unfortunately do require proper postage to be applied.

Numbers of signatures on petitions for the House of Commons and the Senate are approaching 70,000, but we can always use more. Hopefully within a short time we will no longer have a need for further signatures on petitions.

As of today, Parliament will sit for only 48 more days before the Summer recess begins on 10 June 2005. There is a possibility of an extension of up to 10 sitting days that would take the start of Summer recess to 24 June.

In either case, time is running short and we should be asking our MPs to ensure that Bill S-18 is passed and enacted before Parliament is recessed for the Summer.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Burns, bands and ceilidhs
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:58:51 -0800

Greetings, three short messages. Regards, the other Ron

1. The Burns Museum in Alloway, Scotland, is falling into disrepair, aparently the victim of neglect or a measure of disinterest on the part of the Scottish government. A petition calling on the government to step In with some fast aid is out in the public. If you are interested, go to http://epetitions.scottish.parliament.uk/viewtopic.asp?TopicID=46

2. SFU’s Pipe Bands have a series of engagements scheduled:
? March 20th: RMM Junior Band Open House for children ages 7 to 12 years of age - on SFU campus.
? April 9th: RMM Pipe Band Garage Sale - Walnut Grove, Langley
? May 14th: Concert and Ceilidh by the full Band (Spirit of Scotland) - Massey Theater, New Westminster
CONTACT: Rob Watt at robwatt@rmmpipeband.com

3. The Vancouver Gaelic Society is presenting:
? Ceildh featuring A Touch of Irish – singers, dancers –coffee, tea, dancing, bar service, door prize.

WHERE: Scottish Cultural Centre, Caberfeigh Room (2nd floor)
WHEN: Saturday, March 5th
TIME: 8 PM, doors upen 7 PM
COST: $10.00; children 12 and under admitted free.
CONTACT: Morag Black 604-939-3963 or email garryblack @telus.net

? The Vancouver Gaelic Mod (May 10-14) will be preceded by a Pre-Mod concert presented by the Vancouver Gaelic Choir.
WHERE: Hebridean Room, main floor, Scottish Culrural Centre.
WHEN: April 2nd.
Details to follow.

?Paul Anderson, Scotland's champion fiddler, and George Donald are expected to appear at the Mount Seymour United Church Hall, Parkgate, North Vancouver on April 16th. Details to follow.

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Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:06:23 -0800

WELCOME to the "Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News," an occasional e-letter from the Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections Divisions of the Vancouver Public Library.

Here are our upcoming programs in March and April:

Historical Photos Online

Explore Vancouver Public Library, BC Archives and the National Archives historical photograph sites.
Tuesday, March 8, in the Level 5 Training Room, at 2 p.m. & 6.30 p.m.
Registration required, call or inquire at: 604-331-3778

Metamorphosis: Book Binder - Book Restorer - Book Conservator
Book conservator, Terry Rutherford, will give a slide presentation on her various book-related careers. She will discuss her educational choices, why she made them and how they worked for her.
Monday, March 21, at 7:30 p.m, in the Peter Kaye Room, Central Library, Lower Level
Registration is not required, but if you have any questions, call the Special Collections Division at 331-3778

Database Alerts
VPL's many Proquest and Ebsco databases can be set up to alert you via e-mail when specific magazines or articles are added. Come learn how to set up these alerts to work for you.
Tuesday, March 22 Level 5 Training Room at 2 & 6.30 p.m.
Registration required, call 604-331-3742, or visit the information desk on level 5.

Old News
Come explore newspapers from the 19th century to 1990! In this 2 hour session learn to find articles, advertising and more, in local, national and international newspapers.
Wednesday April 6, 2:00-4:00 pm, in the level 5 training room
Registration required - Phone: 331-3742, or visit the information desk on level 5.

Marketing 101 for Book Artists
Full-time book artist, Laura Russell, will discuss book shows; marketing plans; promotional materials and how to approach dealers, institutions, and collectors regarding selling artists' books.
Monday, April 18, in the Peter Kaye Room, Central Library, Lower Level 7:30 p.m.
Registration is not required, but if you have any questions, call the Special Collections Division at 331-3778

Techno Tuesdays
March 1 - Get the 411: Find people and businesses Canada-wide with a selection of free online telephone and other directories.
March 8 - Historical Photographs Online: Learn how to search for historical photographs of British Columbia.
March 15 - Need Legal Information?: Try LawLink, A gateway to Reliable websites on a host of topics, from family law to housing.
March 29 - World Book Online: There's a world of information at Your fingertips, in this online version of an old favourite.Ebsco:
Sessions are held twice each Tuesday: from 2-3 pm and from 6:30-7:30 pm. Interested patrons should register at the Level 5 Information Desk at Central or by phone at 604-331-3603.
Techno Tuesdays is a continuing series of hands-on programs exploring electronic research tools..

Updates & Goings-on ...

Open Office update!
VPL now provides access to word-processing software. There are stations throughout the building - 29 in total! They are either timered Internet Stations (yellow-card) or un-timered Library Resource Workstations (orange-card).

New PressDisplay titles:
- Awemainta from Aruba in Papiamento
- Wen Wei Po from China in Chinese!
- The Seattle Times
- The Jerusalem Post in English
- and some papers from Kenya

Check them out at:
http://library.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/viewer.aspx
Or access by clicking on Electronic Resources from the library home page, at www.vpl.ca
The Globe and Mail CD-Rom has been updated to December 2004!
The Special Collections Division always has displays that are worth a visit when you're at Central:

Backstage Vancouver:
a display which captures the elements of Vancouver's theatre history. Includes photographs of performers who have passed through the city, theatre programs, ephemera, pamphlets and books that feature details of Vancouver's theatrical past, and two Elizabethan costumes from Bard On The Beach.

On display March and April.
That is all for this issue of Newspapers & Magazines and Special Collections News.
If you have any ideas or comments for future issues, please send us an email to nmsclist@vpl.ca We welcome all your suggestions.

Vancouver Public Library
350 West Georgia Street
Vancouver BC V6G 1B6
(604)331-3603

To see our all of our current and upcoming programs go to:
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/nm/home.html#Programs
OR
http://www.vpl.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/spe/home.html#Programs

To e-mail us a question:
http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca/branches/LibrarySquare/qis/emailref/eRefService.html

To suggest a purchase:
http://www.vpl.ca/online/PrintableSuggestedPurchase.html

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13 MARCH 2005 ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE , The BCGS is participating.

MEET 9:30 am at granville and drake street to participate

IT TAKES ONE HOUR TO WALK THE PARADE ENDING AT PENDER AND GRANVILLE. THIS YEAR IT IS EXPECTED 40-60,000 CROWD SIZE.

LOOK FOR THE BCGS TENT ON GRANVILLE STREET.

WE WILL BE ONE OF 16 ON THE SITE ON SUNDAY ONLY.

THE PARADE BEGINS AT 11:00A.M

WEBSITE INFO IS WWW.CELTICFESTVANCOUVER.COM

ANOTHER CELTIC SITE IS THE NEWSPAPER www.celtic-connection.com

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Keppie Lectures

Greetings, further to my email of February 4th 2005, here is some information about the schedule of Professor Keppie, recently retired from the University of Glasgow. He will be presenting a series of lectures and participating in a Workshop with other notable scholars during the period March 8th – 19th sponsored under the Cecil H. and Ida Green Visiting Professors Programme,

1. SUBJECT: Archaeologists aren't interested in the past: the example of the Antonine Wall.
WHEN: Tuesday, March 8h
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
WHERE: UBC Museum Of Anthropology, Lecture Theater

2. SUBJECT: A place in the sun: Romans on the Bay of Naples
WHEN: Friday, March 11th
TIME: 3:00 P.M.
WHERE:Room A 202, Buchanan Building, UBC

3. SUBJECT: Frontier History Workshop – Cross-Cultural & Interdisciplinary Perspectives. Topics cover frontiers from different periods of history over a wide geographical range, including Egypt, Jordan, China, Argentina, Britain andNorth America.
WHEN: Saturday, March 12th
TIME: 9:00 A.M. – 5:00 P.M.
WHERE: Peter Wall Institute for Advanced Studies, UBC
NOTE: Free to the public but limited space. Pre-registration is advised.
CONTACT: Professor Franco De Angelis for registration at 604-822-6749 or email angelis@interchange.ubc.ca

4. SUBJECT: The Roman Legions: from the Rubicon to the Rhine frontier.
WHEN: Thursday, March 17th
TIME: 3:00 P.M.
WHERE: B Wing, Penthouse, Buchanan Building, UBC

5. SUBJECT: The Romans in Scotland: The far frontier
WHEN: Saturday, March 19th
TIME: 8:15 P.M.
WHERE: 2194 Health Sciences Mall, Woodward Building, Lecture Hall 2, UBC
NOTE: under the joint auspices of the Vancouver Institute and the Centre for Scottish Studies, SFU.

UBC MAP SITE: http://www.ubc.ca/about/ubcmap.pdf

CONTACT: for general enquiries, James Russell at 604- 224-4097or email russellj@interchange.ubc.ca

Regards to all, the other Ron

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - time to send petitions

Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:58:07 -0800

 Greetings All

For those who have been holding onto Post 1901 Census petitions, hoping to collect one or two more signatures, it is perhaps time to think about sending them in to us. Particularly those for the Senate and Non-Resident petitions. Petitions for the House of Commons can wait a few more days but they should be forwarded to us shortly as well. We hope that soon no more petitions will be needed.

The next sitting of the Senate will be Monday 7 March 2005. Bill S-18 does not appear on the Order Paper for that day but we think it likely that the Senate Committee will Report it back to the Senate then.
Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees is the third item on the Daily Routine of Business.

Debate on Third Reading of S-18 will hopefully begin Tuesday 8 March 2005. With a little luck it could complete Third Reading and Referral to the House of Commons in one sitting (we hope).

Any communications with your Parliamentary representatives at this time should stress that Bill S-18 has the support of the Canada Census Committee, the Canadian Historical Association, and the Association of Canadian Archivists. Stress also that we wish to see Bill S-18 proceed through the House of Commons as quickly as possible in order that it can be completed and receive Royal Assent before Parliament recesses for the summer. As always, be polite and respectful in your communications.

With a little luck, many of us will spend our summer researching the 1911 Census Records instead of still fighting to have them released.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 Committee hearing posted
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:32:22 -0800

Greetings All.

FYI.

I have today posted to the Post 1901 Census Project website, at the URL following my signature, an extract of the unrevised transcript of the Senate Committee hearing of Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act. The Committee considered and referred Bill S-18 back to the Senate without amendment 24 February 2005.

The earliest date that debate on Third Reading of this Bill can be started is Tuesday 8 March 2005. It is hoped that Third Reading and referral to the House of Commons can be accomplished in a single sitting of the Senate.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

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To: "Gordon A. WATTS" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject:  S-18 passes committee
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:21:31 -0800

Greetings All

I forward FYI the following brief announcement from the Office of Senator Lorna Milne regarding Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm

Permission to forward without notice is granted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul, Jeff: SEN" <PAULJ@SEN.PARL.GC.CA>
To: <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: [CCC] S-18 passes committee

I am very pleased to report that S-18 passed committee stage this morning without amendment.

Jeff Paul
Policy Advisor
Office of the Hon. Lorna Milne
Ph: 613-947-9744
Cel: 613-715-2965


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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - S-18 Committee hearings
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:33:42 -0800

 Greetings All

Just a reminder that consideration of Bill S-18 – An Act to amend the Statistics Act by the Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology has been scheduled for Thursday, 24 February 2005, at 11:00 am. The hearings are to be held in Room 705, Victoria Building, 140 Wellington Street, Ottawa. Clause by clause deliberation is scheduled at this time so it appears that the Committee expects to complete their deliberations in a single sitting.

Unfortunately, there is no indication that the proceedings of these hearings will be videotaped or Webcast. Committee hearings however, are typically open to the public. Usually there is limited seating available so anyone considering attending the hearings should probably contact the Committee Clerk – Josée Thérien, beforehand at (613) 990-6080. Should anyone attend the hearing I would greatly appreciate receiving a report of the proceedings.

Scheduled witnesses are Ms. Jennifer Stoddart – Privacy Commissioner of Canada, Raymond D’Aoust – Assistant Privacy Commissioner, and Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada. Senator Lorna Milne has assured us that there is sufficient support among Committee members that Bill S-18 should easily pass the Committee stage and be referred back for Third Reading in the Senate. Based on these assurances, it has not been felt necessary for any of the leaders of the Census campaign to appear as witnesses.

It is expected that the position of Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart re: Bill S-18 will be somewhat different than her immediate predecessors Bruce Phillips and the discredited George Radwanski. It is believed that she will be supportive of Bill S-18. Chief Statistician Ivan P. Fellegi is also reported to support Bill S-18. We shall see.

Happy Hunting

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census
en francais
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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - Committee meeting on Bill S-18
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:26:12 -0800

 Greetings All.

The Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology is scheduled to meet on Bill S-18 - An Act to amend the Statistics Act, on Thursday 24 February 2005. The meeting will be held in Room 705, Victoria Building, 140 Wellington Street, Ottawa.

Witnesses scheduled to appear are Jennifer Stoddart - Privacy Commissioner of Canada, Raymond D'Aoust - Assistant Privacy Commissioner, and Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi - Chief Statistician of Canada.

I am not aware of what Ms. Stoddart's position will be when she appears, but I believe that it will likely be substantially different than her immediate predecessors Bruce Phillips and the discredited George Radwanski. I was encouraged in reading a speech entitled 'Supporting Transparency and Safeguarding Privacy' that she gave to a conference for the Access to Information and Privacy community 1 April 2004. In that speech Ms. Stoddart made considerable reference to British public administrator Samuel Pepys and a diary he kept (in shorthand) from 1660 to 1669.

Ms. Stoddart concluded her references to Samuel Pepys by stating:

'Pepys's approach to his diary has, I suspect, a lot of lessons for us about the social interests in privacy and in open governmental records, and I hope that in some way it can serve us as a model, at least to stimulate our thinking about how to balance the two, for example in looking at census data.'

For those interested in reading the rest of her comments re: Samuel Pepys, her speech may be found at

http://www.privcom.gc.ca/speech/2004/sp-d_040401_e.asp

Chief Statistician Ivan Fellegi has been reported as supporting Bill S-18. Readers will forgive me if I remain somewhat sceptical about just how strong that support might be. I am open to being convinced of his support however, and will listen closely to what he has to say to the Committee.

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
To: "Canada Census Campaign" <CANADA-CENSUS-CAMPAIGN-L@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Post 1901 Census - New column posted....
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:04:47 -0800

Greetings All.

FYI. The latest of my columns regarding Post 1901 Census issues has been posted this morning. It may be accessed at http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazce/gazce111.htm

Happy Hunting.

Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net
Co-chair Canada Census Committee
Port Coquitlam, BC
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:10:37 -0000
Subject: As Time Goes By
To: "ScotlandsPeople Updates" <scotlandspeople-updates@lists.scotland.net>
From:
SPnewsletter@scotlandonline.co.uk

ADDITIONAL DATA:
We are delighted to announce that we have recently added a further 100,000 entries onto the site.

Following the release of New Year data, visitors to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk can now access records from the Statutory Register of Births for 1904, the Statutory Register of Marriages for 1929, and the Statutory Register of Deaths for 1954.

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From: "Chris Duncan - Family Historian" <chris@familyhistoryscotland.co.uk>
To: <bcgs@bcgs.ca>
Subject: CDs of interest
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 03:23:20 -0000

Dear BCGS

I produce some CDs (digitised antiquarian books) which may be of interest to your society and its members. I am currently offering a trade price to societies of £6.50 per CD retailing at a minimum price of £9.99 (a couple of double CDs are more - £15.60). The Scottish Genealogy Society already stocks some of the titles relevant to the Edinburgh region.

I look forward to hearing from you if you require further information on any CDs of interest. For full descriptions please refer to our alternative stall at http://www.parishchest.com/en-gb/dept_940.html as I am currently updating the main website.

Kind Regards
Chris Duncan www.familyhistoryscotland.co.uk

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From: Mbmelanson@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:07:26 EST
Subject: New Melanson ~ Melancon Genealogy?
Hello, everyone!

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This new hardcover has 1,040 pages, a 20,000+ person index, complete footnotes and a full bibliography. It covers the Melanson and Melançon descendants of Pierre and Charles Mellanson, who arrived in Acadia in 1657, through the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Québec, Ontario, New England, New York, the Midwest and Louisiana.

Reviews

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– Le Raconteur [Le Comité des Archives de la Louisiane] This thoroughly documented work is a must have volume for your library! …this volume is a treasure trove of information. – Le Réveil Acadien [Acadian Cultural Society]
Attached is an order form in Canadian currency. If you cannot open the Adobe attachments, please go to http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html for a free download of Adobe Reader.

You may also visit the website at http://www.gregor.ca/Acadia/MichaelMelanson/ If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at mbmelanson@aol.com.
Please forward this email to anyone who you think might be interested in this book.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Thank you!
Michael B. Melanson
mbmelanson@AOL.com
http://www.gregor.ca/Acadia/MichaelMelanson/

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To: ScotschairII
From: Ron MacLeod <jrmacleod@telus.net>
Subject: Lecture
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:38:33 -0800

Something to put it in your date book. Regards, the other Ron

The Centre for Scottish Studies at SFU and the Vancouver Institute are sponsoring a lecture by Professor Lawrence Keppie, retired curator of the Hunterian Museum at the University of Glasgow, Scotland.

Professor Keppie will address the Vancouver Institute on Saturday, March 19 at
8:15 PM. The title of his lecture is “The Romans in Scotland: Their Far Frontier.”

The venue is the Woodward IRC Building located at 2194 Health Sciences Mall, UBC. The IRC Building is beside UBC Hospital to the north.
There is free parking in the Health Sciences Parkade which is directly adjacent to the building.
For a map of UBC: http://www.ubc.ca/about/ubcmap.pdf

Contact:
Harry McGrath
Tel: 604 268 6810
www.sfu.ca/scottish

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From: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [CCC] Re: [nsroots] Post 1901 Census - Bill S-18 referred to  Committee
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 14:53:08 -0800

 Hi Juanita.

After the posting of my message regarding Bill S-18 being referred to Committee and prior to Jeff posting his message he called me and we had a brief discussion regarding the advisability of having a great number of submissions being sent to the Committee members. It is felt that after all this time of our campaigning the members of the Senate Standing Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology are well aware of our feelings and concerns regarding the release of Historic Census records.

Many of the members of the current Committee have been on the same committee during the earlier deliberations of Bill S-12 and Bill S-13 and received submissions regarding those Bills. Many of those submissions would be substantially similar to what would be sent to them regarding Bill S-18.

I expect it likely that a few of the major leaders of our campaign may still make submissions to the Committee but at this time we do not feel it necessary to encourage everyone to do so. Apparently some Senators receiving messages from our supporters in recent months have viewed those messages as an orchestrated "campaign of intimidation". It has never been the intention of the CCC to intimidate anyone. We do not wish any members of the Committee to feel that they are being intimidated by undue numbers of submissions at this time. At this time I suggest that most people hold off on making any submissions and leave it to the major leaders of the campaign to do so. Those individuals know who they are and there is no need for me to list them here.

Prior to Bill S-18 being presented, many of the major leaders of the campaign participated in a conference call meeting with Senator Milne. Those participating unanimously agreed, albeit some reluctantly because of the 'informed consent' provision, to support the Bill without seeking amendment. I expect that those who committed to this remain so committed.

I know of no-one in the genealogical or historical communities that is happy with any form of 'informed consent' clause for release of information, after 92 years, for future Censuses. We see no need for it at all. However, considering that Bill S-18 gives us the unrestricted access sought for all records from 1911 to 2001 it was felt prudent to take what we can at this time. S-18 gives us everything we have sought, with no added conditions or restrictions, with the exception of the 'informed consent' clause. It ensures that records of Census will continue to be released 92 years after collection. It includes a review clause for the 'informed consent' provision that takes effect after two censuses have been conducted under the Bill. Perhaps at that time others can possibly fight the 'informed consent' provision and see it removed or changed.

The 'test census' conducted last year by Statistics Canada included an 'informed consent' clause. Should Bill S-18 be passed as presently worded I would expect the wording of this question will remain as it was on the test. Should S-18 fail, unless other legislation was passed to permit it, in my opinion inclusion of such a question would be unlawful.

I was less than pleased with the results received from Statistics Canada regarding that question. However, prior to this test being conducted there had been no publicity that told participants the benefits of responding positively to the question. Dr. Ivan P. Fellegi, on behalf of Statistics Canada, has gone on record as being committed to conducting a public campaign at the time of Census, in conjunction with Library and Archives Canada, to advise all respondents to future Censuses of the benefits of responding positively to the 'informed consent' question, and to encourage them to do so. At this time we can only hope that such a public campaign will be effective and that the majority of respondents will give their consent to release their
information after 92 years.

There has been no indication at this time about who, or if, anyone from the genealogical or historic communities would be consulted during the review of the effect of the 'informed consent' clause.

Happy Hunting.


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From: "joseph macdonald" <joseph000@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: "Gordon A. Watts" <gordon_watts@telus.n